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Married nearly 35 years Help!

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silverlining48 Mon 16-Jun-25 10:49:01

Sounds like it is not that bad, life is comfortable without financial worries. You have family, shared interests, so try to stand up for yourself a bit more and make a life for yourself .

It’s up to him what he does. Surprised he isn’t on a lot of boards which woukd take up his time, but the auction interest is something at least you can share.

As an afterthought I didn’t think in a 7 bed house it’s possible to still get under each other’s feet.

Smileless2012 Mon 16-Jun-25 10:43:16

Hello Char and welcome to GN.

This is a difficult one isn't it because your H has now retired, what you once found 'doable' is no longer the case.

35 years married is a long time and for him, his role as alpha male has never been a source of discontent for you, but
now it is.

There's no doubt in my mind that your H is controlling and as has been said, now he's retired you are the only one he can continue to control.

When we can't change someone else's behaviour, the only thing we can change is our reaction to it. You know that if you disagree it ends up with an argument which can go on for days, but forewarned is forearmed. You can mentally prepare yourself because you know this will happen, but he wont be prepared for you digging your heels in and refusing to apologise because you always do.

He will think everything in the garden is rosy because you've never indicated that it isn't so TBF, if you want him to know how you feel you need to tell him.

I'm assuming that when you say he makes you change your clothes for example what you mean is he comments, so you go and get changed. This would be a good place to start; don't do it.

You say he's a good man at heart and you clearly love him so give him the opportunity to change the behaviour that bothers you.

If he wont, then maybe you'll have to think again flowers.

Char65 Mon 16-Jun-25 10:25:34

Thanks for the relies, I agree with @SporeRB & @Sparklefizz I don’t want a divorce at my age and TBH DH would be devasted - he just would not know what had hit him, he really wouldn't! Also we have a nice family with the four children (they all get on well) and two grandchildren who we live close too and we babysit and they help DH mellow as only small children can!! smile. When we are out things are fine – we socialise quite a lot and I do have friends who I got to the theatre with though a lot are wives of DH’s work colleagues but even so I have some long term friends and DH doesn't mind me seeing them.

When I posted on MN other women suggested volunteering and NGOs and various things but DH isn’t that interested and says he wants to enjoy his retirement and not commit to anything. (he plays a lot of golf). The thing we did take up was auctioneering. He likes collecting books and other antiquities. He used to have a huge Ian Fleming collection. I quite enjoy that too and we often stay over in a hotel if its not near, so that’s good. Our 24 year living at home is a pain (he dropped out of Uni) as he winds DH up (one thing DH has got is a very strong work effort!!). Most of the times things are fine but you’d be surprised even in a seven bed house we get under each others feet!! Unfortunate he doesn’t like gardening.

Iam64 Mon 16-Jun-25 10:21:22

Silverbrooks 👏
I’m heading for three years since my husband died. It’s not easy but I’m living the best life I can. I ve absolutely zero interest in men, other than my friends

Silverbrooks Mon 16-Jun-25 10:13:08

Nonsense. Some of us have had no choice in the matter. Our partners died and we now live alone. I have lived alone for 20 years since being widowed and manage just fine.

And who says anyone has to go dating? Women need men like a fish needs a bicycle.

You are advocating that OP stays with a controlling man, hiding out in spare rooms because there are worse men out there???

There is nothing wrong with living alone and people shouldn’t be afraid of it.

SporeRB Mon 16-Jun-25 10:03:07

Sparklefizz has hit the nail on the head when she said your husband is a alpha male who worked in the city of London, used to bossing people around, now he only has you to boss around at home. He is not going to change.

If it were me, I encourage him to volunteer, perhaps as a treasurer for a charity or non profit organisation.

With 7 rooms in your house, there is plenty of rooms for you to ‘hide’ – choose one or two as your domain and spend a lot of time with your hobbies there away from your husband.

Keep having an independent life outside your home – meeting friends, exercise, join groups.

IMHO, a life as a divorcee at our age can be a very lonely life and if you were to go dating again, god knows what type of men you meet- probably much, much worse than your husband.

Char65 Mon 16-Jun-25 10:00:09

Thanks for replies which I will read and re-read.

@BlueBelle "*as far as he knows he’s been the perfect provider, husband and friend he hasn’t changed nor have you but the circumstances have so you either sink or swim on this one"

Yes, exactly that, he really does think has been the perfect huband/provider - the only thing he will say is maybe be worked too much but he can see no reason at all why I'm not very happy with my lot in life (and probably thinks I am grin

lafergar Mon 16-Jun-25 09:55:15

I'm a little confused as to what you are asking or what you want?

Magenta8 Mon 16-Jun-25 09:08:31

petra

LOUISA1523

Google coercive and controlling abuse .....and ask yourself if thats what you would want for your DDs

This isn’t coercive control. For many years the OP was free to to go out, see friends and family, her own bank account, no one checking up on her as to where she was, who has she spoken to.
Speak to my friend who was a victim.
For years she always had to sit in a seat facing the wall when her and her abuser went out to eat. That’s just one tiny rule she had to obey.

There are degrees of coercive control, as with all forms of abuse.

Just because the friend was a victim of a more extreme form of it doesn't mean that what OP experiences is not coercive control. The fact that the behaviour is intensifying now that DH is retired and around the house more is concerning.

OP only enjoyed relative freedom while DH was working and had plenty of other people to bully and control.

Silverbrooks Mon 16-Jun-25 08:59:54

Clearly, money is no object, which it often is when couples decide to separate post-retirement. For many it might be very hard indeed to fund two households from joint assets but that wouldn’t appear to be the case here.

You appear to have enjoyed and still enjoy the material benefits that his work has enabled you to have - but life is about more than fancy homes and holidays and getting your hair done.

My question is always where do you want to be in five years time, ten years time and more? He is 13 years older than you but that’s no guarantee he will die first. He could live another 20 years or. Do you want 20 or more years of this?

There are many members of this forum who have divorced in older age and never looked back.

Never ever let a man control who you are and what you do and make you feel you are walking on eggshells.

There is nothing wrong in admitting you want a different life now. You have already effectively done so by writing about your life here.

Only you can decide what you want to do but I’d be seeing a divorce lawyer.

It doesn’t have to be an acrimonious divorce. Many couples do stay togther until the children are grown then go their separate ways.

BlueBelle Mon 16-Jun-25 08:41:40

Well you ve had all the benefits for 35+ years so I m not go to say I m sorry for you that would be disingenuous of me
You ve enjoyed allowing him to be the breadwinner while you do what you say you loved staying at home with the children and a lovely house expensive clothes, holidays, wining and dining etc with him at the helm as the boss
You ve accepted his ways while it was to your advantage suddenly he’s at home and it’s not so good but everything in life has a price
You aren’t going to change him…. as far as he knows he’s been the perfect provider, husband and friend he hasn’t changed nor have you but the circumstances have so you either sink or swim on this one
Find stuff to do outside the house find your voice if you want and tell him how you want his retirement to be but you can’t grumble if it’s not how you want it
No amount of money would make me be subservient to a man but we re all different and that’s the choice you made
Good luck in a long and passably happy later life

Sago Mon 16-Jun-25 08:41:18

What do you live the most, the lifestyle or the man?

petra Mon 16-Jun-25 08:33:41

LOUISA1523

Google coercive and controlling abuse .....and ask yourself if thats what you would want for your DDs

This isn’t coercive control. For many years the OP was free to to go out, see friends and family, her own bank account, no one checking up on her as to where she was, who has she spoken to.
Speak to my friend who was a victim.
For years she always had to sit in a seat facing the wall when her and her abuser went out to eat. That’s just one tiny rule she had to obey.

Iam64 Mon 16-Jun-25 08:27:03

If you’re lucky, you have many years of life left. Is what you have enough, what can you change to make you less in dread

NotSpaghetti Mon 16-Jun-25 08:26:08

Can you build a circle of activities away from him if you don't want to leave?
Or are you afraid to?
I would think that it would seem to be a scary option- but it really is an option.

The fact that you can't chat to him is a lonely place.
His retirement means he will probably be chipping away at your domain and leaving you with less and less.

If you were reading this regarding someone else, what would you say to them?
flowers
Thinking of you.

Char65 Mon 16-Jun-25 08:16:30

LOUISA1523

Google coercive and controlling abuse .....and ask yourself if thats what you would want for your DDs

Yes I have done that and know there are some traits definitely but when he was working I did do my own thing and he wasn't 'controlling' in terms of checking up on me which i've read about. I think he is very traditional in his thinking but agree with @Sparklefizz that he's not going to change.

Sparklefizz Mon 16-Jun-25 07:52:22

I'm sorry to read your story. You say you love him but you look at the future "with dread". You have to face the fact that he's not going to change. The only person you can change is yourself, to build a way forward, and a counsellor would help you with this. What do you want to do? You need to think this through very carefully.

He is an alpha male and is used to being the boss at work, and now he only has you to boss around.

LOUISA1523 Mon 16-Jun-25 07:46:38

Google coercive and controlling abuse .....and ask yourself if thats what you would want for your DDs

keepingquiet Mon 16-Jun-25 07:43:46

Goes to show money can't buy you love...,love.

Char65 Mon 16-Jun-25 07:40:59

Hi all, just joined as 2 g/c’s! smile First post here. Sorry a bit nervous and had real problems posting this!! I’ve posted on MN before with the same username and the same issue – DH! Ok so here goess….so I’ve just turned 60 and DH is 73 and we have 4 children, 2 boys and 2 girls, one married with the 2 grandchildren: the 2 girls living with partners and the youngest, 24 living at home. We married in 1990 and I was a SAHM, DH was very much an Alpha male and had a very good job in the City of London and was very well paid. I wanted for nothing and we lived various places around the London and now in a 7 bed house which is our fav. I had domestic help with the kids and the house. DH gave me an allowance and although sometimes he could be a bit funny about what I’d spent it on and change things ig he didn’t like it mostly he was fine. I guess I was a bit of a obedient, corporate wife and what he said held sway (he’s quite old fashioned like that too as were his parents – his dad was a rich business man and his mum was a SAHM also he went to a private boarding school which I don’t think helped).
Anyway, he let me get on with my own life to a large extent as long as I ran the house and looked after the kids and looked nice myself- ladies who lunch, hair and beauty, shopping etc, going to the theatre and tennis every year. We lived in Frankfurt and New York for a bit for his work but to be fair, on the whole I enjoyed it, I liked organising the house, entertaining, cooking and being with the children (especially that! smile and liked spending money on the home and myself and by and large DH didn’t complaint as long as the house was peaceful, tidy and I didn’t argue with him and was around when needed.

Anyway, he retried and obviously things changed a lot as was to be expected. Sure we do a lot of things together – go out for days, auctioneering as he’s always been a collector of various things, have nice meals out and go to a lot of places and holidays and we went away on a cruise for my 60th which was lovely but he takes more interest in the house and what I’m doing and sometimes he’ll make me change my clothes if he doesn’t like what I’m wearing (he hates me looking a ‘mess’ as he calls it!) and question what I’m doing and I guess I saw what I’d always known really was that he’s a bit hard to live and likes things his way and because he worked long hours and we’d such a nice lifestyle (I came from a very ordinary family) I guess I ignored the truth but even so throughout our marriage on occasions I would see things on TV or talk to other women who were maybe getting divorced and think ‘DH is like that too’. The thing is if I stand up to him and argue we can be at loggerheads for days so I tend to just do what he wants and back down and say sorry even if its not my fault – I’ve always been like that. I used to think I was doing it for the children but of course I can’t tell myself that now! [win].

I don’t know what I want really as we have nearly been married 35 years (in August) and we’re not going to divorce (he thinks everything in the garden is rosy) and its no good talking to him either as he just gets shirty and annoyed but he’s a good man at heart and has been a good father to the child (always supporting me with boundaries etc) and helped them all finanically but he’s always been very stern and serious and conservative as he’s got older he’s got worse! Sometimes I feel I’m treading on eggshells around him. Its hard to explain but sometimes I feel if he is the headteacher and I’m the pupil! Aso in someways we’re totally different as I’m very placid and mild mannered and more of a people person and I can kind of see he moulded me into the type of wife he wanted (one of our daughters say this) as I was quite young and impressionable when we married. I do love him – and I kind of admire and look up to him too if that makes sence and our sex life is very good but sometimes when I look ahead it is with a feeling of dread confused. flowers thanks.