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Shimmer Thu 27-Aug-26 18:19:48

Ive been married nearly 50 yrs and although there have been a few ups and downs its been a fairly happy marriage. This was until the last few years.For some reason the relationship has now almost completely broken down.We can barely go a day without a massive argument and are bickering and having digs ar each constantly. Im annoyed today as ive heard my husband discussing his thoughts about me with my daughter and feel he is trying to get her to take sides. I really dont know what to do.If I try to discuss thing's with him he says he hasn't got a problem and he's happy.This just winds me up even more.

Fallingstar Thu 27-Aug-26 18:50:19

How much time do you spend together??
It could be that you both need to take some time out to enjoy being without each other, if you have friends and he has friends make sure you each go out solo with said friends, or failing that just go for a walk to a nearby cafe/library/museum etc., treat yourself to a coffee and cake or soft drink, whatever floats your boat. Then when you both come home tell each other about your day. Is good to share something the other doesn’t know about.
But arguing can also be a sign that maybe something isn’t right health wise and one of you is more tetchy due to feeling below par physically or mentally. Nothing wrong with a check with he GP to do bloods and check BP etc.
As for discussing how he feels with your daughter, perhaps he just wants another person’s opinion, and is better her than the next door neighbour, am not sure it indicates he is trying he to get her to take sides, the easiest thing is to ask her.

Allsorts Thu 27-Aug-26 19:13:06

Shimmer I feel for you both, you're in this circle now of snapping at each other and I do agree with Falling Star. I would try as much as you can, walk away when he has a go at you and take time out. Difficult I know I would find it hard nit to have a go back but you have had more than a lifetime together so know you cannot give up on that. You both need to agree to discuss things and not hide behind being snappy as it will be the norm, not good for anyone.

Cossy Thu 27-Aug-26 19:31:14

Great advice from the last two posters.

Get out and do some things either on your own or with a friend or another family member.

Men are ridiculously dreadful when it comes to discussions around emotions and/or relationships.

Good luck flowers

MayBee70 Thu 27-Aug-26 21:51:16

Do you find that he criticises you and you then find something to criticise him about? Which is what happened to us when our marriage broke down. If he won’t talk about it could you both, perhaps, write down why you’re both unhappy? It’s very difficult to see things properly when you’re actually in the relationship. I’m really sorry that you’re going through this. The strange thing is that I get on really well with my ex husband now and we’re good friends. I can, however,understand why I found him so difficult to live with. He used to talk to a family friend about me and the weird thing is her marriage was the first one in our peer group to end in divorce. Was there a particular event after which things started to go wrong? It’s sohard to understand how you can be so close to someone for so long and then find that they’re almost a stranger. Maybe you both need a few days apart sometimes? My partner was driving me nuts recently ( we don’t live together) but after spending a few days apart a couple of times we now seem to be muddling along quite well again.

M0nica Thu 27-Aug-26 22:13:52

Is he going through a belated middle age crisis?, suddenly realising that he is in the last quarter of life?

DH has got very tetchy with everyone since his serious and complicated heart problems developed. I think the tetchiness is part and parcel of his illness, I can shrug it off if it is me, but he does it to other people and I have to keep stepping in when he is getting unduly ratty with other people for no good reason.

David49 Fri 28-Aug-26 07:26:37

As often we get half the story, bickering takes two, being intolerant of the other half. Shimmers husband recognizes there is a problem but there is no indication what the problem is, just winding each other up.

My guess is you are spending too much time together, but not much common interest, the balance is wrong. Our balance is 3 or 4 days a week we do separate stuff, and no arguments at all. As we get older and less mobile that will change and that is a concern.

petra Fri 28-Aug-26 07:35:06

Your husband is on the phone talking about you.
You’re on here talking about him.
6 of one half a dozen of the other.

Shimmer Fri 28-Aug-26 07:37:23

Yeah,this is what happens. He gets irritated very easily, almost every time we are in the car he has some kind of issue with other drivers Unfortunately I take the brunt of it. I admit I do then find thing's to criticise him but this really is not in my nature,i am very easy going any tolerant of people on the whole.I would like to discuss our issues together but like I said he tries to make out that only I have a problem. Its starting to make me feel ill now.The atmosphere is terrible at the moment.

kittylester Fri 28-Aug-26 07:47:22

I would just leave and spend the night at a hotel. Not telling him that you are going or whereto.

Then you both have space to reflect

dragonfly46 Fri 28-Aug-26 08:13:54

Good idea kitty.

Astitchintime Fri 28-Aug-26 08:25:10

Good advice from kitty.
Surely your daughter won’t take sides though………she might think this is simply a relationship spat or might be inclined to suggest you have couples therapy.

Luckygirl3 Fri 28-Aug-26 08:27:45

petra

Your husband is on the phone talking about you.
You’re on here talking about him.
6 of one half a dozen of the other.

Letting off steam on an anonymous forum in no way equates to dissing your wife to your daughter.

The latter is entirely wrong.

You need some life of your own to pursue your interests (as does he) and some distance from each other.

Gran22boys Fri 28-Aug-26 08:37:53

Men often struggle with retirement. My DH does. He’s always saying he wishes he was still working. It gave structure to his day.
I pretty much have to organise my DH’s life and have accepted it though I find it frustrating. He always says what are we doing today? My Dad was the same once he retired. He just didn’t know what to do with his time.
I agree that it’s a good idea to take yourself off somewhere so you’re not together all the time.

AGAA4 Fri 28-Aug-26 08:54:35

While the atmosphere is so bad between you maybe you should go away for a few days. Is there someone you could visit or go somewhere where you can reflect?
I agree with others that you need to spend time in the day apart but a complete break may be what you need now.

greyfur16 Fri 28-Aug-26 08:59:07

Nobody talks about this stuff which makes it feel even more lonely.
What is your day to day life like? Have you fallen into patterns of behaviour, for example is there a certain place in the home for these spats. It's easy to get into.
Do you do enjoyable things....have you both got something to talk about and bring to the table?

greyfur16 Fri 28-Aug-26 09:04:19

Is this irritation from him a new thing? Can you avoid being in the car with him?

David49 Fri 28-Aug-26 09:10:40

kittylester

I would just leave and spend the night at a hotel. Not telling him that you are going or whereto.

Then you both have space to reflect

Thats not a good idea, he might start a police search for you!

By all means have some time apart but tell each other what you are doing.

kittylester Fri 28-Aug-26 11:25:02

Doubt he'd start a police search but it might make him think.

AGAA4 Fri 28-Aug-26 11:46:07

I agree with David. She should tell him. He may not ring the police but he may alarm other people in the family who would worry.

fancythat Fri 28-Aug-26 12:42:41

When was the last time he went out without you?

Davida1968 Fri 28-Aug-26 13:30:56

Have you thought about relationship counselling? (If DH won't go, then you might find this helpful for yourself.) Worth considering, if you are feeling very stressed about this situation. It might be worth seeking a good counsellor who you feel comfortable with? Just an idea.

Shimmer Fri 28-Aug-26 15:08:04

I have suggested counselling and he gets even more angry.
I had a counsellor years ago for a different problem, he came in with me once and got quite argumentative with her,he came our saying she way useless and " she has got me down as a bully"
I sometimes think was she right.
I booked a table to go out for a meal earlier, I booked it for 4pm as I don't like to eat late.He said he doesn't want to go at 4 he wants to go at 6 so ive cancelled it.
This is what its like all of the time.

greyfur16 Fri 28-Aug-26 15:12:03

Do registered counsellors allow somebody to drop into a session?

Maybe once these patterns and neural pathways are established it is hard to break free.

Shimmer Fri 28-Aug-26 15:14:30

Just an added note
Thanks to everyone for your ideas/ support. I feel so alone at the moment.
Im not sure if i may be imagining it but I felt my daughter was a little distant from me when i saw her earlier, this breaks my heart.I hate the thought that he is saying things about me.
He is always blowing has own trumpet regarding how we look after the grandchildren etc,I just get on with it,i dont need praise. He constantly books for it