Who is God?

Nonu, are you related to Lil by any chance?

Well said Jeni, I thought it was just me

You are a cheeky blighter LOL LOL LOL I"ve dampened my drawers now , so will have to put on a fresh pair , I only change once a month whether I need it or not . [big grin]

I cannot follow this thread?
To whom does it matter if there is a God, god, or not?
Is this not a matter of individual belief?

I, would rather discuss, how many angels can dance on the point of a needle!

Alison I know you were trying to compliment me. I was referring to the reference to "some people" . I am using this as an example. You have not upset me or anyone that I am aware of by this post - but wording like that can upset people.
Do you really not understand that when you refer to "some people" then, well, some people (but not all, admittedly) wmight just possibly think you are making an indirect dig at them?
I have noticed that you repeatedly use such phrases, sometimes annoying or upsetting others, and then claim you did not mean to annoy or upset. It is very confusing for us. In real life the nonverbal components of speech reveal whether you "mean it" or not. Here the words stand alone and people interpret them through their own frame of reference.
But there is obviously something about the words you are choosing that is rather more ambiguous than the norm.

INDEED Nonu

Bloody hell Flippin' 'eck. Why am I having to spend so much time apologising just lately?!

Sorry!

Nonu in contemplative mood

Forgive me but it seems to me that if a chap says something to -some- poster s it like manna from heaven , the wise one has spoken xxx

Speak for yourself, jings. I'm listening as well as talking. [humph empticon] Haha! empticon, is probably better!

I didn't blame you Anagram! I just hadn't read that particular post. (Not that I've read many of the others. Aren't they long?! )

Jess I'm sorry but my intention was to complement you, not to refer to anyone else. DH has a great problem with admitting he is wrong and so do several other men I know. If I had been referring to GN I would have said so but I didn't. Its like the reference to me having a go at atheists, I didn't, I simply made a defence of some Christians but I was still falsely accused. I would be much happier if people could just take posts at their face value and not read things into what isn't there.

Off to the theatre now.

gramps mentioned PMT jingl - don't blame me!

gramps don't overdo the 'mere male' please, it doesn't become you!

No - I don't think I insulted you Gramps! I just didn't thank you for the poem, which was actually rather nice.

Whatever Bags.

Might as well talk to the hands, the heads sure as hell aren't listening.

Well, only the ones that want to agree with each other.

PMT????!!!!!!

Where was that brought up!

gramps, you are very wise not to blame anything on PMT on this site! Most of us (not all!) are well beyond that stage of our lives, thank goodness.

The thread continues because we are trying to understand, jings. Not everything, of course, but more than we did before.

Yes of course I would agree with you if we were chatting face to face. But when you write something like that in a forum it is not at all surprising to me that some people think "Does she mean me?"
Can you not see that?

Bags, I'm off out now. I'll try to answer tomorrow. And I'll try to be succinct, but no promises!

I don't think anyone on the latter part of this thread understands what anyone else is saying, except of course the 'usual suspects' who will always be on the same wavelength.

So I will say no more. Except that, if Gransnet HQ want to delete any of my posts they are quite welcome to do so.

I think there might be some confusion over the difference between whatever politics drives the countries you mention, lily, with secularism which, from what I have read about it, strives to be apolitical as well as areligious.

What you say appears correct on the surface but secularism does not, in itself, bring about repressive regimes – that is done by extreme politics of the left and right. The gradually increasing secularisation of much of Europe over the last century (still going on) has resulted in greater equality in the same countries.