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The main tenet of Christian doctrine?

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Alexa Sun 30-Dec-12 11:48:39

Is it the Resurrection event, or is it the historicity of the one unique son of God?

Greatnan Mon 14-Jan-13 20:43:34

Petallus - I really don't see the point of your last remark.

petallus Mon 14-Jan-13 20:53:05

*Greatnan you said you weren't sure you liked the idea of being told to discuss something now you are no longer a student.

I don't like being treated like a student either and have sometimes felt irritated when I come across an unsolicited lesson in grammar, correct pronunciation, correct usage of words etc.

Your own post on lose/ lose comes to mind as a recent example.

That was the point of my post.

Greatnan Mon 14-Jan-13 21:02:19

OH, I see - not just to start an argument then! I explained my motivation in posting the post on loose/lose and I think most people accepted it. It would be nice if we could stop going back over previous posts on totally unrelated threads, wouldn't it?

Lilygran Mon 14-Jan-13 21:05:40

Oh, Greatnan! I was talking about my experience at university. It follows on from something Joan said, then something I said, then something Joan said then..... confused Higher up the thread!

Lilygran Mon 14-Jan-13 21:14:06

Thanks, Sel! sunshine

petallus Mon 14-Jan-13 21:16:46

I truly wasn't trying to start an argument, it was a genuine reaction I felt I wanted to express.

Something about pots and kettles!

I don't mind at all referring back to previous comments if they seem relevant but accept that not everyone feels the same.

Nelliemoser Mon 14-Jan-13 22:35:09

I had an RE teacher from 1964 to 66 who didn't take a literal view of the bible at all. He actually upheld the idea of several of the issues in Joan's post such as the Loaves and Fishes: when one person takes out the food they've brought, everyone does the same. Do not take the stories literally, they were most probably never meant to be used like that.

That sort of interpretation did not trouble him in the least but he still believed in a spiritual being.

I thought the main tenet of Christian doctrine was something about loving one another. My position tends to the feeling that Christianity is not bad as a basic philosophy to live by. I have difficulties with the Divine being concept which probably rules me out completely as being a Christian.
I have at times had Buddhist leanings and I can see how this practice can help people.

This BBC religion site seems to give a more balanced perspective about what different religions believe than much of the other internet stuff.

Http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/christianity/beliefs/basics_1.shtml

j07 Mon 14-Jan-13 22:41:13

I like the stories. They are true.

They told me so at Sunday School.

Ana Mon 14-Jan-13 22:41:50

I haven't read your link yet, Nelliemoser, but I agree with your post. I had an RE teacher like that too, and I do think that sort of approach to Christianity is more helpful than expecting children and young adults to accept the Bible stories literally.

j07 Mon 14-Jan-13 22:42:08

God! I hope Dorset's not still reading this.

Nonu Tue 15-Jan-13 10:55:43

People go back to previous posts , nothing wrong !!confused

jeni Tue 15-Jan-13 11:04:23

JO7 and of course you always believe every thing you're told?
So why don't you believe me?

j07 Tue 15-Jan-13 12:29:21

Who was dead and stinking. And wanted to say so? confused

Course I believe you Jenifer. #thatisnotaspellingmistake hmm

j07 Tue 15-Jan-13 12:31:34

Anyone else think this thread is heading towards the best place for it? smile

soop Wed 16-Jan-13 16:01:49

Where would that be, jings? wink

Alexa Thu 17-Jan-13 13:31:20

Thanks to Marthanne which is the sort of reply I sought i.e. that Jesus was a man as well as Christ the God. As a man he was aware of and subject to the moral and physical accidents to which all flesh is heir.

I still wonder if for any Chrisyian of any denomination who promises to obey some creed, that it is mandatory to believe in the Resurrection as historical event, and not as allegory.

I understand that this human aspect of JC is what made Christianity a powerful religious force, because by reason of the human aspect of JC Christianity can and does adapt to cultural change.Other Abrahamic religions are religions founded upon books of rules. Among the more authoritarian sects such as the RCC doctrinal changes arrive tardily. Also the emotional excesses of the evangelical sects are holding the followers back from modernity.

I don't imply any criticism of Judaism or Islam, because they each have their mystic, liberal version, as does Christianity.

Alexa Sun 20-Jan-13 18:56:57

Please would someone tell me how to reply, where to reply, to an interesting private message that arrived in my email from a poster to this forum? I cannot find the buttons for private messages

j07 Sun 20-Jan-13 19:01:58

To the right of the Gransnet banner at the top of the page. Next to the Log out box. says "inbox". Takes you through to private messages.

j07 Sun 20-Jan-13 19:05:48

It's not mandatory to believe in all aspects of the Christian religion Alexa. The important part is trying to follow the two commandments of Jesus - love God and love thy neighbour as thyself. smile

annodomini Sun 20-Jan-13 19:08:56

Alexa, if you get a pm, there's a space underneath it for your reply.

Alexa Sun 20-Jan-13 19:38:53

Jo,I do trust that the life and example of Jesus are good. However I doubt if my heretical beliefs would be welcomed by any but Unitarians.

jeni Sun 20-Jan-13 20:10:25

How do you know unless you tell us what they are?
On GN you would be surprised who agrees with whom and over what!confused

nanaej Sun 20-Jan-13 20:47:56

I do my best to love my neighbour and accept that the lessons Jesus taught through example and parable are a good basis for harmonious social living etc but I cannot believe in God.

Also I do not like the fact that the Christian churches are so numerous and all 'believe' slightly different things, interpret and add rules etc. As they cannot agree I cannot commit to any of them!

annodomini Sun 20-Jan-13 21:19:48

Alexa, heretical beliefs are meat and drink to us! wink

jeni Sun 20-Jan-13 21:29:17

Quite!
As long as the debate remains just that.
A debate
And not personal!