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A view of what faith is

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soontobe Wed 24-Dec-14 09:36:34

There is even more to it than that.
God can be a rock.
God can be assurance.
God can be a real help in trouble.
God can protect us if He chooses.

And a whole lot more.

We would like as many people as possible to experience that.

And it doesnt really stop there.
It can secure eternity.
It can make us a lot less scared of dying.

Grannyknot Wed 24-Dec-14 09:30:31

bags so you must practice "faith-based atheism" smile

I struggle to explain - or understand really - where my faith comes from, because I don't think I'm an atheist and I'm not religious either. I just am. Like Pooh.

Confused but happy from Tunbridge Wells. grin

thatbags Wed 24-Dec-14 08:14:01

Interesting article, written from the heart. My take is that I feel all those things (samples below) without religious faith. If 'faithful' people think atheism lacks all this, it's no wonder they seem afraid of atheism.
When I told my parish priest I was no longer a christian (i.e. had no religious faith), he said I was "taking the easy way out". He could not have been more wrong. Having no religous faith has not made my life less rich in the kind of feelings described in the article.

"elusive experience of wonder and mystery"

"[Have you] never felt overwhelmed by, and in some way inadequate to, an experience in your life, have never felt something in yourself staking a claim beyond yourself, some wordless mystery straining through word to reach you?"

(not sure what he means by "straining through word"; I can guess, but...)

"moments of wonder and clearest consciousness, which suggested a dimension of existence beyond the everyday"

(I just don't call that dimension god)

"Religion is what you do with these moments of over-mastery in your life"

(Same could be said of scientific enquiry)

"[Faith is] a state of motivation, a desire to reunite with that glimpsed moral beauty and incorporate it into everyday living."

(Moral beauty is equally available to atheists, as is trying to incorporate it into everyday life).

Grannyknot Wed 24-Dec-14 07:19:35

"...living attentively every day". I like that. Thanks for posting, I was just yesterday trying to explain to my - new, we're just getting to know each other - SIL what I mean when I say "You gotta have faith".

Galen Tue 23-Dec-14 23:30:07

All I can say, along with 'doubting Thomas'
Is 'Lord ibelieve, help thou my unbelief'
I don't usually state my Christianity, as I find that it is unnecessary to daily life, and of no interest to other people.
Personally, I find that my actions as a result of my faith are no different from those of any right thinking or charitable religion!
In fact, I can find no difference between 'religious' people or any people who adhere to a moral and humanistic tolerant way of life!
I do not support extremist opinions or actions on behalf of any religion or viewpoint.
Tolerance to all should be the rule!

Lilygran Tue 23-Dec-14 22:41:34

I thought this was an interesting approach to defining what faith is. For people who keep asking what it is, exactly. www.nytimes.com/2014/12/23/opinion/david-brooks-the-subtle-sensations-of-faith.html?emc=edit_ty_20141223&nl=opinion&nlid=70471830&_r=0