Christianity and socialism

feetlebaum.
A church is on holy ground. A church is God's house. A lot of people think of God when they enter it.

whitewave.

The money lenders did make him annoyed. If I remember correctly they were being dishonest, plus they were practicising their dishonesty in the Holy temple.

He doesnt talk of a higher revenue stream as such.
But we are supposed to be wise. A country is supposed to be wise. Chrisitains are supposed to pray for it's leaders.

There is nothing wrong in earning money.
The proper expression is "the love of money is the root of all evil", not money is the root of all evil as is sometimes quoted.

Obviously a country can distribute its money unwisely and indeed badly.

Eloethan, I liked your post.

soon, I was speaking of the R C Church, the wealth of this church in poor countries such as South America is so wrong. Christ said - sell what you have and give to the poor, how can they justify churches with much gold whilst children sleep on pavements and work on rubbish tips. I have asked the nuns at our local convent this - they are friends - their reply is the people want the churches like thst, well for me I think if a seven year old who sleeps on the pavement and has an empty tummy was asked the answer would be different. Christ gave his most well known sermon on a hillside

"A witness to God" - what does that mean?

The riches of the church can never be justified but they try bless them

You are probably right. But they do have a huge number of buildings that are somewhat crumbling.

And it rather defeats the object to sell them all.

They are a witness to God at the very least.

The made in God's image bit I have always taken to mean men and women, that look God like.

You're both right, of course. Must admit I was thinking about Jesus and his cohorts rather than the bigger picture!

They observed the apparent movement of the planets across the sky and made deductions from what they saw.

More about it - www.ancient.eu/Greek_Astronomy/

Greeks did - they named a few of them

Do you think they did know, roses, in biblical times? How could they, realistically, when there was no reason to suspect their presence, never mind the equiment to see them?

Might have been a woman? #justsaying

I know it was man who wrote the bible - but there are some in here who do not!!

Some highly educated people knew about the planets, but not many.

Naturally, at that time they would think that, us being the superior animal on the planet.Not that they realised it was a planet.

But it was men who wrote the Bible.

Genesis 1… 27*God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him*; Seems pretty clear to me. I am sure that someone will be able to tell me I have misunderstood this!

There is no doubt that many of the Victorian philanthropists and anti-slave campaigners were motivated by the kindly brand of Christianity.

Unfortunately there are others who are OT-bound.

"In my Father's house there are many mansions".

"The poor will not cease to exist within the land......open your hand to your brother, to your poor one and to the destitiute in your land" is a quote from the OT, Deuteronomy 15:11.

True Lillygran , my g grandpa who was a baptist minister and a practising Christian worked with Keir Hardie to establish the Labour Party as we know it now , as did others in the churches who had to face the suffering of the hungry every day , my great set up soup kitchens , took work as a miner to earn extra money which went to feed widows and children , little wonder he died from exhaustion

The riches of the church can never be justified but they try bless them

A number of people who were in at the start of the Labour Party were very active Christians and there is still a very strong link between Christianity and socialism here and in other countries.

The poor will always be with you but you will not always have me

Jesus was anointed at Bethany with precious oils and when his disciples objected and said that the oils could have been sold and the money distributed to the poor, this was his answer.
It is a hard one to understand and has been quoted many times to justify the huge riches of the Church in the face of world poverty, amongst other things.

…But Jesus, aware of this, said to them, "Why do you bother the woman? For she has done a good deed to Me. 11"For you always have the poor with you; but you do not always have Me. 12"For when she poured this perfume on My body, she did it to prepare Me for burial.…

I think rosesarered sums it up well.

No, AB, he did say it was because he would not be here, but can't think of the exact wording.

I think he said the poor will always be with us because he knew greed would always be with us