Endless fascination with the possibility of the "afterlife" ;

I used to work with a carer who was something of a spiritualist medium. During our break one night she said there was a man standing behind me. She went on to describe my maternal grandfather. She said that his hair turned white at about the age of forty. I had no idea when my grandad's hair turned white, and couldn't wait to phone my mother the next day, to ask. She said that she was born when my grandad was forty, and she could only remember him having white hair! The carer also said that my grandad was with me a lot. I like to think that he is around, it's a comforting thought.

My husband was a believer in the afterlife and told me he would let me know that he was ok if he passed away first. He died suddenly 8 years ago, a friend of mine visited me a few days after he passed away and just before she left she said, I can feel a presence squatting by the fire. Unbeknown to her that was the exact position he took when he came home in from work if he was cold. A couple of months later I had cleaned and vacuumed upstairs then taken the vac downstairs, returning with some clothes to put away, laying in the middle of the landing was a sharp pencil which was definitely not there when I vacuumed, John had been a joiner and had a thing about having a sharp pencil for marking. I like to think he he was keeping his promise to let me know he was ok.

It makes me sad to hear some peoples cynical comments about all of this. It is almost as if they think others will think them very uncool if they dare to show any interest in anything spiritual.

We are all spiritual beings. Isn't it enough of a miracle in itself that new life is continuing and plants come up every season. Get off your devices and go outside. Tune in and get grounded. There is more to us than just electricity that gets 'switched off'.

Your Bibel says the dead all cease toexist and all thir thoughts do perish.

This means there is no afterlife as in returning to visit former family, homes etc.

Those things that seem to be dead people are just Satan's demons pretending to be dead people in order to fool people into believing the dead fly off to heaven or hell and can come back - this is just one more of Satan's countless lies - he told the first lie to Eve by lying that eating the apple would not make her die.

When Jesus returns in a few years all mediums who mess with occult things willbe slaughtered.

That's that then rosewhite?
You seem pretty sure of the timing of the Second Coming ("in a few years")
I may be sceptical about the afterlife, but the thought of an avenging angel slaughtering all mediums who mess with occult things I find quite bonkers bizarre. .
"Always strike a happy medium" was not meant to be interpreted in that sense.

I seem to remember rosewhite sending a lot of posts a little while ago, warning us that by debating the literal truth of everything in the Bible, we were falling into Satan's trap and would lose our souls, also that various denominations of Christianity had been set up by Satan deliberately to catch our souls for himself - I think Methodism and Catholicism were picked out specifically as they were the ones that had been mentioned by posters earlier.

It could possibly have been someone else, but the name rings a bell, and the tone and delivery are the same.

'T'was the same person Elegran. I looked her up (just so that I can go and stand next to her on The Day of Judgement you understand) 'forewarned', etc. It may mean I won't go up in a puff of sin after all.

Well you can't say we haven't been warned.
("Ye ken noo'!" You will know the reference!)

We all are entitled to our opinions, that's what this site is about - but well, it's 'the way she tells 'em'...(or rather us) not exactly a laugh a minute.

Shades of Dad's army and private Frazer " we're doomed, we are all doomed "

I've already declared my newly discovered openness to an afterlife. It's really a tiny thing at the moment but this thread has been on my mind a lot. What if that tobacco smoke I mentioned is their way of getting in touch? Or any of the other 'coincidences'? Who knows? All these little signs might be logically explained eventually or they might be ... so with this going on in my head you will forgive me if I tell you that my mobile started doing weird things yesterday, acting like it was possessed and flitting from app to app and screen to screen unaided. I assume it's malfunctioning in the way all gadgets can but at 6am this morning (bad night, up early) it suddenly opened the email app and started tapping out dots and commas like morse code. Then it stopped. With tongue in cheek I typed 'hello?' and the blasted thing went mad with the dots and comma-style morse again. For a moment I was very tempted to try and translate it!!!! Me!! I can't believe myself!!

OK, it was pure coincidence and I was being a bit daft but what if???

Maybe it was aliens trying to get in touch with you mollie? Can't be any dafter less likely than Satan picking out Methodism and Catholicism to garner souls for himself
PS GNHQ when do we get our Hallowe'en smileys please?? Maybe we could have "ghoulies and ghosties and things that go bump in the night?"

mollie that would freak me out. I'm not up to knowledge of how mobiles work - maybe it's getting on a bit and needs replacing, maybe the battery has run out. I'm sure some GN'rs will come up with a logical explanation, but I understand your concern, I would be anxious until the reason why it's doing it could be gently explained to me

The human brain works on electricity, but so do a lot of other things.

The mobile could be an electrical fault, could be the batteries on their last legs and giving out bursts of energy. When I was videoing fox cubs (they are now on Youtube if anyone wants a look) with a motion sensitive camera, which could be left out 24 hours a day, I would find all kinds of strange clicks and flashes and sudden transitions from full daylight colour to monochrome infra-red-lit night shots when the batteries were getting low. a new set cured it.

My landline phone was being peculiar, too. I tried everything, but remembered that I had had it for eight years and the rechargeable batteries were only guaranteed for 5. Replacing them solved that, too.

Also to be considered (don't want to worry you here, but if we are considering the supernatuiral, there are worries there too) is that thinking it detects odd smells is one thing that the brain does when its own electricity is playing up - for instance it is a forerunner of some epilectic fits.

Visual images are decoded in the brain, where an electrical discharge could be interpreted as whatever the viewer's mind decides, and Joan of Arc's voices may have been due to pressure on a specific part of the brain.

The mobile is only a few months old so it's going back to the shop tomorrow. The logical three-quarters of me says it's just a fault and a year ago all of me would have said that with firm conviction. But really, who can say what is or isn't a message from elsewhere? Stranger things and all that...

Some of the cases of young children claiming to have had another life are interesting. They seem to be in a different league from people who claim to have been Marie Antoinette or Bonnie Prince Charlie.

As a Christian I am surprised there is so little mention of Jesus in this thread.
He is your proof of life after death because he rose from the dead after the crucifixion - there were hundreds of witnesses to this, and he promised everlasting life to all who believed in him.
It's all there in the Bible. I believe it. If it's not true then who was Jesus?
Was he a liar, a con man, a mad man or was he the Son of God speaking the truth?

Well said Mrsmopp!

rosewhite mentions Jesus on her thread and to me he sounds very unforgiving man, prepared to slaughter anyone who doesn't agree with him, not exactly someone I'd want to associate with

What?! Hardly, boheminan, just the opposite in fact. Don't allow Rosewhites
Crazed musings confuse you.

It is rosewhite who is prepared to slaughter anyone who is not 100% convinced of the absolute truth of every word, (or who delights in the thought of them all being slaughtered, to be accurate.)

"Jesus" (not his real name) was most likely a combination of yarns told about god men... and "the thousands of witnesses" claim boils down to four accounts each of which is different from the others, and features only the women - meaning that it was less important in that culture.

mrsmopp - I don't think 'proof' means what you think it means...

Yes I have to. Read a bit about it and been to a few clairvoyants. Have u ever been to one?

Here's another story about my DGD. Someone mentioned reincarnation. What do you think?
I was driving my DD and DGD past a local village hotel. A voice from the back of the car says, "We should put on our make ups and jools, and go to the plub". She was about 2 at the time. I said to my DD, " Where does she get these idea from?" My DD replied that in a previous life, she must have been a "lady who lunches". We were quite amused as you can imagine.

roses and elegran. I stand corrected, but the last line on rosewhite's thread reads that Jesus was going to slaughter all Mediums when he returns in a few years time - which to me, is, well a bit 'off'