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There is definitely no loving God. Fact.

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jinglbellsfrocks Wed 21-Oct-15 09:46:47

Early this morning, on the World Service, I heard the voice of a six year old boy crying out to the doctors treating him, "Don't let me die! Don't bury me!". The doctors, trying to reassure him, laughed and said, "You're not going to die".

It was in the Yemen. The little boy had just seen a three year old, put into the ground. He was wounded himself shortly afterwards.

He died. The doctors were unable to save him.

If you have heard that young voice on a video on the internet, you will agree with me.

Smileless2012 Mon 10-Jul-17 18:14:15

For me God is real; my spiritual father, a mentor, teacher and a friend.

RosieLeah Sun 09-Jul-17 14:39:08

'God' is a concept, just like 'Father Christmas'. The word 'God' represents all that is good in humankind. It is not an actual person.

Anniebach Sun 11-Jun-17 12:08:58

Gilly, two babies and my husband in four years , I coped because I had my faith, didn't mean I didn't get angry, Welsh mountains are a good place to voice anger aloud . For me, perhaps my babies may have had serious health problems had they lived, I don't know but it was a possibility, if my husband had survived the car crash and been severely disabled that would have been hell on earth for him.

When he died I would have been left with a 7,5,3,1 year old, I don't mean it was easier because two died, I accepted there was no clear answer to some of my questions, this is my definition of faith. I just knew they were safe in the 'ever open arms, No help to you I know.

gillybob Sun 11-Jun-17 11:51:50

It's a cruel world Anniebach and I can't get my head around the whole "god thing". Why would a loving god let someone go through the heartache and agony of having a baby and then cruelly snatch it away in the most awful way? When vile people ( too many to name ) get to live long lives.
I'm so sincerely sorry to hear of the loss of your 2 babies. I can't begin to imagine how you coped through something like that. sad

Anniebach Sun 11-Jun-17 10:40:59

I do understand Gilly and understand your question. I still remember how I felt in the maternity wing, could faintly hear the babies crying in the nursery , mine was in the mortuary , this happened twice.

gillybob Sun 11-Jun-17 10:12:17

I am hurt and very angry Anniebach my little grandson (I have a lovely video of them playing together at Sunderlands ground) is so fit and healthy, whereas this poor little innocent boy.... I can't finish the sentence just too upsetting .

Anniebach Sun 11-Jun-17 09:51:08

Gilly, poor little chap.

No one can answer your question , you are hurting and angry and want the child healed so he can live his life

gillybob Sun 11-Jun-17 08:49:36

Brave little Bradley Lowery pictured with his hero Jermaine Defoe.

The two have struck of a close friendship.

gillybob Sat 10-Jun-17 22:55:12

A lovely little boy called Bradley Lowrey (google him) an avid Sunderland supporter just like my grandson, (my little grandson was mascot with him at a home game) a lovely little boy who has never said or done a thing wrong in his whole 6 years of life.

Where is God in his life? In fact I will go a step further and say if you're there God, you should be bloody well ashamed of yourself angry doesn't begin to cover it.

Anniebach Sat 10-Jun-17 22:37:17

Sad things ? Murder, illness, accidents, war, still births, struck by lighting, drunk driver mounting a pavement , so yes I asked

grannypiper Sat 10-Jun-17 18:20:40

Maybe Allah should sort out Yemen

annsixty Sat 10-Jun-17 18:03:36

I can't believe you need to ask Annie.

Anniebach Sat 10-Jun-17 17:35:38

What bad things Gilly?

gillybob Sat 10-Jun-17 10:45:25

Why do bad things happen to good people?

Surely a "real" loving God would not let this happen?

Anneishere Sat 10-Jun-17 10:40:35

But let's not run away with the idea that all is doom and gloom in the world - there are plenty of good decent people that exist - people who help others who have compassion for others. You just look around and goodness and beauty is around us all. The sad thing is what with internet and media we seem to just hear about all the negatives. If you look at newspapers /TV news reports you never get much good news - it's mainly all bad news causing many to believe life is all doom and gloom. If there is a bad force there is also a good force - you simply take your pick & make your choice.

Anniebach Thu 25-May-17 18:00:01

I didn't say it was Ana but always a good thing to look at our faults before moving onto the faults of others.

Ana Thu 25-May-17 17:30:55

I don't think it's just the UK that's to blame for all the war and bloodshed in the world, Annie.

sunseeker Thu 25-May-17 17:28:08

If you believe in God than you also have to believe there is the alternative, he goes by many names but Christians call him Satan. Satan uses his influence to create evil and do harm to us as he wants us to turn against God. Why God does not intervene and stop atrocities before they happen I don't know, I wish I did and I wish He would.

Anniebach Thu 25-May-17 17:27:30

That loving God did not tell us we should make and sell guns and bombs or that we rule the world ,we invented the British Empire and stil have the need tell the rest of the world how they live

paddyann Thu 25-May-17 17:17:56

Luckygirl and nothing has changed ,we still drop bombs or supply them and the families of the folk we kill still retaliate ...now where exactly IS that caring god?What harm

Luckygirl Thu 25-May-17 16:07:47

Wow - this is a blast from the past!

Anniebach Thu 25-May-17 15:21:57

Mans inumanity to man Anneishere

Anneishere Thu 25-May-17 15:13:14

I believe most of humanity suffering has nothing to do with God but it is Mankind who has a lot to answer for!

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Spot Mon 10-Oct-16 14:05:37

There is a loving God. I know Him and I know what He is like.

The funny thing is that the same people who blame God for the sins of humans, also complain that if God is loving there would be no hell. One day, God will put a stop to all the pain, and that will involve bringing hell into play. At the moment, He won't do that to give evil people a chance to repent.