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Has old fashionned slapstick died?
Have you ever been to see a Spiritualist
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Yet again!!??
Blimey!
If we are going to keep to the gospels only, then there is not too much in them. The gospel of Luke, chapters 19 and 20 can give some insights, as can Matthew 10.
If we are going to incorporate books further on that, we have Acts chpt 5, Romans 13, and Hebrews chapters 9, 10 and 11.
Then why are you keen to slaughter them?
soon, why do think bombing the innocent people in Syria is right? It goes against the teachings of Christ
I dont add or take away anything from what is in the Bible.
I am Methodist. Methodist is a broad church.
Does JC love the terrorists that you are so keen to slaughter?
Yes. Emphatically yes.
I can't place Soon's faith/religion either.
Soon - which church, chapel etc do you attend? Do you agree with all their teachings?
Or are you in the same frame of mind I was once (still am really) where I couldn't make my mind up. But convinced that God exists.
Common sense rules out the bombing of Syria , they bomb, we bomb, they bomb, we bomb, on it goes .
I so despise the hypocrisy of - the way IS treat prisoners is barbaric
The king of Saudia Arabia dies and we fly flags at half mast , our PM and future king dashes there to pay respect - seems their treatment of prisoners doesn't matter.
I see the Archbishop of Canterbury has spoken out against the bombing of Syria. I must admit I'm beginning to waiver a bit myself. Keep thinking of those women IS have captured. Good job I don't have to run the country.
Don't know what the OP is all about. CBA to read it all.
Luckygirl, I don't understand soons faith ,
I fully agree with you , I believe for every action there is a reaction
Annie - I know that this is where you are coming from and it would seem to me that, as a christian this is as it should be. I was asking soop to clarify her position because she appears to have a very different view. The love from her god seems to be directed at those she likes and not at those she doesn't - I find this an interesting interpretation.
As an agnostic, my view is pretty close to yours Annie - i.e. there is good in everyone if we look hard enough; or at least to start with! I would not have lasted long as a social worker if I had not held that belief! I met some pretty unsavoury characters believe me, and it was only by recognising that I shared the same humanity and looking into how they had got to be as they were that I was able to continue. I think that we have to try very hard to walk (in our imaginations) in another persons shoes before we condemn.
I would be very grateful if no-one would now post to ask if I support terrorists - the answer is No! But I do ask why they finish up as they do - not only because this seems right in principle, but because it may hold the key to solving the problem.
Is selling drugs not as bad as taking drugs Ana?
So providing the means to kill is as bad as actual murder?
Christ loves and died for all, not just for Christians
Brother Andrew is not a brother of any order, not ordained in any faith, he is a baptist who has taken bibles into atheist countries
When people ask does Jesus love X Y Z, I believe yes he does
Remember his cry from the cross - father forgive them
Should I forgive seven times ? No seventy times seven
If we believe he understands and forgives the west for selling arms then surely he understands and forgives those who use them?
Phew! I am afraid that I find the whole concept of sacrifice and atonement deeply distasteful.
Does JC love the terrorists that you are so keen to slaughter?
I have read this recently. Sorry for it's long length.
It is an extract taken from the book "Light Force" written by Brother Andrew, first published in 2004.
I havent actually read much of the book. I opened the book at these pages at random and thought they were important in the current climate.
The primary need of these people was a universal issue. They need love! I went to pray for one woman who had severe headaches. After we had prayed, she asked, "Did God show you anything about me?" Yes, I said. He showed me how much He loves you. She broke down and cried in a very bad way. "God loves me?" she asked. "Why? Nobody loves me". That's what so many people here believe - that nobody loves them. That nobody wants them.
'Jesus ministered to people through their needs. He went to sick people, not to the healthy people - people sick in spirit, sick emotionally. That's mostly what we have here in Beit Sahour. We have people with broken hearts. Most believe that God doesn't love them. They think God loves the Jewish people, but He doesnt love the Arabic people. They are not the chosen people, so they dont deserve God's love. All Arabic people feel that way, especially Muslims.'
'How do you address that?'
I read the Bible to them, the verses about how God loves the world. I explain the work of the cross, how He loves you and me so much that He went to the cross - for everybody, even criminals. So everybody is loved by God, but it's up to you if you accept His love or not. Most of the people accept His love, because that's what they seek, that's what they need. Some people have asked me why I dont tell about judgement. These people already know about judgement. They're already in hell with this situation. What they need to understand is God's love. One person told me she never heard about this word love, that she only knew about sexual love. Everybody wants to know that Jesus loves him, even with his condition, with his situation, with his circumstances.
And what does Nawal do after people respond to the love of Christ? 'I give them Bibles, and we used to have neighbourhood meetings'. Because of curfew, such meetings were now infrequent. When the time comes that restrictions are lifted, Nawal wont do the typical Western-style meeting where a general invitation is issued for a Bible study."If I minister to a woman in her home, she doesnt want anyone outside to know what's happening there. I dont want to force her to come to meetings and share this with other women, so I say to her, "I will come to you next Wednesday. Okay?" And she is free to invite any women - neighbours, aunts, nieces, anybody who needs help. Sometimes, two or three people come. Sometimes six. Sometimes ten or twelve. I minister to all who come...
We wanted to know if she had anything to say to the Church in the West.
I've said to God, 'These people outside have to hear our cry.' We are crying because we feel that we are alone. Because we are Arabic people, we feel we are not welcome anywhere. But the Israeli people, oh, they are welcome. We feel we are totally rejected, even the Christians. It's like we are not human beings.
Nawal soberly expressed sadness that parts of the part of the body is being ignored. 'Let's say we are the finger of the that body. We are hurt. Why doesn't the body help? They don't do anything or even say "We love you". So many times I cry to Jesus hard from my heart. Women tell me they need help for medicine or food, and all I can say is to pray to Jesus, and I will pray with them and we cry out together. But somebody has to bring food, so they will know that Jesus loves them. That's the work of the Chruch, of the body of Christ. I believe with all my heart that Jesus loves the Palestinian people. Jesus hurts for them. Jesus cries for them and wants to help them. But He cant do it without the Church - they are His hands, His legs, His eyes.
Later when Al told me about his visit with Nawal, I told him how deeply saddened I was to hear those words. We agreed that Nawal was right, that God loves His Church, every part of his body, whether it is in the West or Middle East, whether Palestinian or Jew. Nawal was doing exactly what the Church needed to do in this region, but she was only one person. We needed a thousand more Nawals. Maybe then there would be hope for peace. But if the rest of the body didn't help, how could it happen?
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