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From the Humanist Association - discuss

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etheltbags1 Tue 12-Jan-16 21:26:54

Im in favour of the OP, Im a believer but not an attender at church, however live and let live, I have no problems with other religions or with those who have no religion at all.

Lilygran Tue 12-Jan-16 21:18:41

The latest figures from? It's easy to throw statistics around but you usually need to do some digging if they are being used to support a view likely to be controversial or at least, contested. Patterns of attendance have undoubtedly changed a great deal over the last twenty or thirty years. Many people who certainly think of themselves as regular churchgoers rarely go to every service every Sunday, for example. This makes it difficult to collect reliable figures on a sampling basis. And while I agree with Jalima from my personal experience, that is also difficult to quantify in any meaningful way

Jalima Tue 12-Jan-16 21:14:38

A large parish church in a town, a cathedral in a city and a small village church (not part of a roster).

granjura Tue 12-Jan-16 21:12:11

In a rural or town area Jalima? Here where I live, there used to be a service in every village and every Church, but now there is a rosta, and services take place in one village one Sunday, and another the next, etc- so attendance 'looks' not to bad- but it still perhaps 80% or more less than used to when I was a kid.

Jalima Tue 12-Jan-16 20:50:27

Well, I am astonished by those figures - probably more people attend at Christmas time but I have been to several services in the last few months which have been very well-attended (at more than one church).

granjura Tue 12-Jan-16 18:45:34

Apparently a loss of 22.000 regular worshippers have been 'lost' last year- mainly older people unable to attend or deceased, and not replaced. How long before attendance falls to below 1%?

Eloethan Tue 12-Jan-16 16:52:23

On the Big Questions yesterday one spokesperson for the C of E said, relating to the conflicting views in the Church re sexuality, it was important that the church was separate from and not answerable to the state. Someone then suggested that that stance might be considered by some to be valid, were it not for the fact that the C of E has a privileged position and exerts power within the political establishment.

granjura Tue 12-Jan-16 15:39:32

Following last night's discussions in Canterbury.

granjura Tue 12-Jan-16 15:25:13

The latest figures show that 98.6% of us don't attend church services.

And yet the Church of England retains established status, legal exemptions from the Equality Act and Human Rights Act, a 26-seat bloc vote in the House of Lords, and control of roughly a third of schools in England.

Despite what some politicians try to tell us, Britain is not a 'Christian country', and it's high time we broke our formal links with the Church and fully embraced the principles of secularism and equality as guarantors of freedom for everyone, regardless of religion or belief.

Justin Welby's quotation in this article is quite something, too. 'The culture has become anti-Christian, whether it is on matters of sexual morality, or the care for people at the beginning or the end of life,' he told the meeting in Canterbury, alluding disdainfully to our tolerant liberal society's progressive attitudes to same-sex relationships, assisted dying, and abortion.