The Pope

Really humpty? I haven’t read one post which even suggests that

Sadly the prevailing attitude seems to be that religious are favoured by God and therefore can't really be guilty of anything, they should be helped rather than punished.

I have posted this before but SIL was left on the steps of a Church at a few hours old. he spent 5 years in a Jesuit Orphanage until being adopted. He has nothing but happy memories, and felt surrounded by love at all times.
After his adoption the Priest and Nun he is named after kept in touch and he visited them regularily. He was at the death bed of the Priest and looked on him as a beloved Uncle. Unfortunately my birth Mother was on the opposite end, put into a M&B home by her Grandparents where she was beaten, starved and forced to wear a paper bag over her head with Sinner written on it after she left the home.
These are people and everyone is different, it is the organisation which is at fault and little or no checking on peoples proclivities and personalities.
The whole organisation needs to take a good look at itself and change the attitude of "we know best" and cover ups.

I agree, aggie

Funnily enough I found "Queenie" grated too , " Charlie" is a problem too . Must be my dislike of "pet" names in general , and why call anyone by an "affectionate" name unless they are Family?

No maybe I haven't mentioned it Anniebach it still grates nevertheless. Just how I feel not a problem with the poster particularly.

Coming fron a Protestant home and marrying into a Catholic family I've been able to relate to a lot of the "circumstances" quoted on here - first time was when I heard my 15yr old cousin was sent away to a "mother & baby home" and returned 6 months later but no baby with her and it was never talked about. I then married an RC in his church but did not become an RC although I attended regularly when children were of school age. They did not attend a Catholic school so received their religious education through the church. I received a lot of support from the various priests over the years but was never asked for any donations. I have just had conversation with DH who as a Catholic boy growing up in the 30s/40s in a family of 5 children went to many camps, was taught badminton, football and swimming through the church and has had absolutely no bad memories. He also does not remember any money passing homes although it was known that the more "well-do-do" members of the congregation supported the priests as they had no real income from the church. We also fostered a boy who had been in many children's homes until aged 11yr when he joined our family. After he had been with us for around 3yrs we received a call through police/social work who were investigating allegations against on of the care worker in the home. Our boy completely refuted these allegations and we could back him in this as we had met him many times prior to the foster placement and he had done so much for us to pave the way for a permanent placement. The boy who raised the allegation had been "institutionalised" and in and out of many homes also but had never experienced any kind of family life. The case was eventually dropped but did cause a lot of harm. I hope all the principals at all levels are able now to keep a check on things but am not too optimistic about this but seriously worry about what happens abroad with children and so called "child agencies".

Never noticed you complain when queenie is referred to as Lizzie, or Charles as Charlie sodapop, perhaps it’s the poster you have a problem with ?

Grates with me too as does 'queenie' instead of Queen.
I read somewhere that the Pope suggested children showing homosexual tendencies should be referred to a psychiatrist. This comment was later removed from reports of his speech. Not sure if this was fake news though, seems extreme in this day and age.

I am sorry but it really jars

Aggie, is it important? I have only used frankie a few times, it is a term of affection , does it affect your life , your faith? No

Another here, who can't for the life of me , understand Frankie . it contains the same number of letters to type Francis

I have to echo the annoyance with 'Frankie', what's wrong with Francis?

Ilovecheese, I know that too, we who are not RC are allowed their opinions on frankie and his limits of power , perhaps you need a thread for RC only

No, Anniebach to a Catholic (the religion into which I was born and brought up) the Pope is not like a PM. He is God's representative on earth.
That's Pope Francis by the way, not "Frankie".

Brilliant Annibach another excellent simili, if you don’t alread teach/ preach locally I think you should consider it. You have the potential to reach people who may not like the traditional delivery of Gods word.

Bridgeit, think of The Pope as a PM, voted in but not absolute power. The splits in the Labour Party, the leader wants to go back , many want to go forward. So it is for Pope Francis .

I like that verse Annibach.
No don’t get off your soapbox, ( it doesn’t come across like that) besides that is what the bible message teaches believers to do.

Bridgeit, what I have learned of the RC Church came from having a RC Godfather, working in a RC convent,knowing my son in law’s father for over 25 years who was RC and have friends who are RC. I was brought up Baptist, became a member of the Angclican Church. Like you my faith is based on the teachings of Christ. I couldn’t care less when people go on about the crusades , many do good in the name of Christ , over centuries many have done wrong, because this is what man has always done.

For me Micah 6.8 -

“He hath shewed thee oh man what is good and what doeth the Lord require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy,
And to walk humbly with thy God “

I will get of the soapbox ?

I must confess to not being overly knowledgeable about Cathholicsiumm ( hope that is correct) as I am from a non conformist religious background, which to me seems to be more about the teachings of JC.

I think he spoke honestly , for me I don’t want fire and brimestone from The Pope , he is a man of humility . He is The Pope but we need to remember - there is always power behind thrones. He has done much in only 5 years

And that’s a good thing Annie, but I can’t help thinking his condemnation needs a bit more passion & foroceity.

Does he Bridgeit? He is doing much which hasn’t been done before

Yes he has an uphill battle with the Curia , but what I mean is that that Bishop should go straight to the law why has Francis to do it , surely the buck stops a lot further down the line than the ton Honcho

But he does have the most Golden opportunity to condem, investigate & rejuvenate instead of pontificating.