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Blasphemy

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varian Mon 05-Nov-18 10:16:28

In Pakistan and many other countries, blasphemy is a crime punishable by the death penalty. The Asia Bibi blasphemy case involves Pakistani Christian woman Aasiya Noreen, who was convicted of blasphemy by a Pakistani court and was sentenced to death by hanging in 2010. In October 2018, the Supreme Court of Pakistan acquitted her based on insufficient evidence. Her husband has appealed to Theresa May for refuge as protests grow.

Should blasphemy ever be a crime, let alone one punishable by death?

Jaycee5 Thu 08-Nov-18 09:22:32

maryeliza54 According to Al Jazeera, the Pakistan Foreign Office has denied that she has left the country. Apparently rumours started because she was flown away from the prison but they say she is at a safe house within Pakistan. She has only just been freed.

GrannyGravy13 Thu 08-Nov-18 09:33:08

maryeliza, mocking a person or section of society, whether it be for religious beliefs, feminist views, veganism or political views seems to have been turned into a national pastime.

There is a fine line between mocking and bullying which is being crossed more and more nowadays. If everyone would just take a few seconds before speaking /posting it could be a small step in making this world a more pleasant place.

maryeliza54 Thu 08-Nov-18 09:34:02

Oh dear Jaycee I actually thought IK had done the decent thing. Well I don’t rate her chances then

maryeliza54 Thu 08-Nov-18 09:36:48

GG I agree that mocking is far too widespread and frequently ( but not always) unnecessary. My point is that religious mocking is not deserving of extra criticism.

quizqueen Thu 08-Nov-18 09:49:10

I have never understood why those who believe in some sort of god should have rights over those who don't believe in any or believe in a different sort of god. If there IS some sort of god then it's about time he/she came down and sorted out the mess the world is in and, if there ISN'T, then the human race will eventually ruin the planet with their greed so the end result will be the same anyway!

Anniebach Thu 08-Nov-18 09:54:19

I can understand quizqueen why you as an atheist say you don’t understand

eazybee Thu 08-Nov-18 09:57:03

I find it sad that people feel it necessary to mock other people's religious beliefs by using terms such as 'sky-fairy'.

I think it was Dave Allen who used to end his programme with the words: 'May your god go with you.'; the term is acceptable; it is the use of a capital G that dignifies it.

Anniebach Thu 08-Nov-18 10:00:16

How do you know Dave Allen was referring to your god and not your God?

GrannyGravy13 Thu 08-Nov-18 10:16:08

I think Imran Khan will put his "popularity" in Pakistan before Aasiya Noreens human rights.

maryeliza54 Thu 08-Nov-18 10:24:32

I agreeGG I actually have always thought of him as an opportunist westernised play boy turned politician.

GrannyGravy13 Thu 08-Nov-18 10:27:36

maryeliza what an accurate description of IK!

Nonnie Thu 08-Nov-18 10:28:03

Today the Pakistan authorities have reiterated what I posted earlier, they won't allow her to leave the country. Not much point in UK offering her a home.

Anniebach Thu 08-Nov-18 10:33:48

Imran Khan was a sportsman not a playboy.

Jalima1108 Thu 08-Nov-18 10:36:30

Well, I think he managed to be both!
He was termed 'Cricket's greatest playboy' now politician

A multi-tasker

Anniebach Thu 08-Nov-18 10:38:14

Two seperate careers

maryeliza54 Thu 08-Nov-18 10:53:09

Agree Jal he was in a very smart London set and ab when you become a politician everything you did before is relevant and says something about you.

Anniebach Thu 08-Nov-18 11:31:51

But maryeliza, it has been many times on this forum Corbyn leaving his second wife because she wouldn’t agree to his wishes on their sons education has nothing to do with him as a politician

maryeliza54 Thu 08-Nov-18 11:41:58

ab I don’t know where to even start with that so I think I won’t even try

wellwalked Mon 12-Nov-18 21:14:47

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Fennel Mon 12-Nov-18 21:27:19

I wasn't surprised by this. I've been hesitating to post this before. Pakistan has been a dangerous place for years.
Around the early 80s a member of my close family became an evangelical Christian. He teamed up with a few others and they traveled by lorry over to Pakistan. A few breakdowns on the way.
After handing out leaflets etc they were arrested and put in prison. Appealed to the british ambassador and were to told to leave the country. So this has been going on for years.

M0nica Mon 12-Nov-18 21:57:14

Someone will offer her asylum, possibly the UK, we will never know which country, offers it, because if it was known where she has gone she would be immediately vulnerable to a murder squad.

Imran Khan was both a sportsman and a playboy, - and he played very hard in both roles. I was never entirely convinced by his sudden transformation into a devout Muslim and honest politician.

As we have seen his party already has a reputation for being as corrupt as all the rest. Imran Khan will let this lady and her family leave the country, knowing that nothing will be said about where she is outside Pakistan and then fudge some reason like settled safely elsewhere in the country, escaped from prison or some such to get him and his country out of this hole.

Pakistan has been a religious extremist country since its formation in 1947. Why Christian religious activist's even think public proselytising in countries like this will serve any purpose, other than enable them to indulge in the atavistic thrill to be got from making themselves martyrs for their religion, I do not know.

eazybee Tue 13-Nov-18 09:30:30

Or it could just be that they have faith.

Jalima1108 Tue 13-Nov-18 10:16:43

UK government will not offer Aasia Bibi asylum due to 100,000 British Muslims signing a petition agreeing that the original sentence should be upheld.
Well, if true (and I have not heard that), it is shocking and very sad that the UK will not offer sanctuary because of fears of the reactions of extremists in this country.

M0nica Tue 13-Nov-18 10:56:09

Having faith does not preclude the possession of common sense.

Elegran Tue 13-Nov-18 10:57:55

Or common decency and humanity.