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Prince Andrew and the Moral Law

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Alexa Tue 28-Jan-20 17:26:07

I'd love it if Prince Andrew went to America to face the music, because I'd love to have someone as famous as he showing a moral lead Tell the truth and shame the devil.

suziewoozie Thu 30-Jan-20 12:49:28

We all know what all young people need in terms of moral guidance. We all know, or should know, that sadly and for complex reasons some don’t get it. They then have to be protected not blamed when they are exploited. One way of protecting vulnerable young girls from exploitation would be better brought up sons

lucywinter Thu 30-Jan-20 12:46:49

I am not victim blaming. I am blaming whoever was responsible for the upbringing of that young girl.

Alexa Thu 30-Jan-20 12:46:30

"Yes - vulnerable, poor and young, and lacking in any kind of moral guidance. Someone let her down there."

Is moral guidance about protecting oneself, or about protecting others?

lucywinter Thu 30-Jan-20 12:45:55

How do you think Alexa! By talking to them and giving them moral guidance. And teaching them self respect at a young age. Either their teachers or their parents.

Anniebach Thu 30-Jan-20 12:45:44

Lucywinter. Every girl is a victim, every man a predator and
every predator is wealthy, powerful and been to public school.

suziewoozie Thu 30-Jan-20 12:45:17

No it’s not - it’s an example of how victim blaming suddenly becomes uncomfortable

suziewoozie Thu 30-Jan-20 12:44:09

So trafficking only happens in 3rd world countries - utter utter ignorance and stupidity

lucywinter Thu 30-Jan-20 12:43:40

I expect victims of FGM allow themselves to be mutilated?

That is a disgraceful post Suiewoozie.

Alexa Thu 30-Jan-20 12:43:35

"So the seventeen year old was bound and gagged was she, when she was taken into the world of middle-aged users?"

How would you protect vulnerable girls?

suziewoozie Thu 30-Jan-20 12:43:00

She was pimped into that world as a young teenager by one of PAs BFF GM. I expect you agree with that judge last week who said that unless you fought back you couldn’t call it rape. Iam where the hell are you?

lucywinter Thu 30-Jan-20 12:42:37

Yes - vulnerable, poor and young, and lacking in any kind of moral guidance. Someone let her down there.

lucywinter Thu 30-Jan-20 12:41:48

Read my post about rape victims.

FGM should not even be coming into this conversation.

lucywinter Thu 30-Jan-20 12:40:33

Look - I'm not talking about trafficked people from third world countries. Do not put that into my mouth.

Alexa Thu 30-Jan-20 12:39:59

Lucywinter, the young person who was groomed by the criminal was vulnerable(poor ,and young)and a powerful man should have protected her, not used her.

suziewoozie Thu 30-Jan-20 12:39:50

I expect victims of FGM allow themselves to be mutilated? Oh and of course we all know that rape victims are either lying or wearing the wrong clothes or drunk or walking home in the dark.

lucywinter Thu 30-Jan-20 12:39:38

So the seventeen year old was bound and gagged was she, when she was taken into the world of middle-aged users?

lucywinter Thu 30-Jan-20 12:38:20

I'm not saying that young women mustn't dress provocatively to avoid being raped, or anything of that ilk. But they do need to be taught how to look after themselves.

suziewoozie Thu 30-Jan-20 12:37:46

Trafficking victims and victims of s sexual abuse allow themselves to be used FFS FFS FFS.

lucywinter Thu 30-Jan-20 12:36:50

Explain Suziewoozie (please smile)

Alexa Thu 30-Jan-20 12:36:22

Annie, moral and social education, to put it very simply, is for teaching people how to treat each other decently.

lucywinter Thu 30-Jan-20 12:36:21

All young people need moral education.

suziewoozie Thu 30-Jan-20 12:36:15

FFS

lucywinter Thu 30-Jan-20 12:35:04

Well, if the seventeen year old girl who Andrew had his arm round at that party had been given a bit of moral education, maybe she wouldn't have allowed herself to be used in that way.

Alexa Thu 30-Jan-20 12:34:44

Annie, boys too become victims of predators.

suziewoozie Thu 30-Jan-20 12:24:46

annie annie ??? Well words fail me. Maybe Iam will be able to address your post because a red mist is preventing me.