The Big Bang, Darwin and the God of the Gaps

Sounds as if the Big Bang will be kicked into touch, as rather excitingly, they may have found an explanation for the universe.

It’s a God??!

No just teasing, of course it isn’t.

We do have to remember that the Big Bang Theory is just that, a theory, even if a convincing one.
It makes the mind boggle, contemplating the universe, never mind parallel universes, or anything never ending.
Most of us can get our heads around the swirling gases and the big bang etc but as Oldwoman70 says in her last sentence,
Who, or what, created all that energy in the first place?
You don’t get something from nothing ( or at least not in our understanding.)

Callistemon

Are we a result of selective breeding from 'Gods' ie other beings who were far more advanced than us?

But how did those other beings get so advanced? Did they evolve or were they created by previous even more advanced beings? Is it turtles all the way down? Down where?

It was not my intention to take a swipe at anyone.

It was a statement and no, sorry, I don't have time to expand on it.

Callistemon

"Nature abhors a vacuum" so, in this particular instance where much could not be explained, religion filled the vacuum.

Can you expand on that? I can’t decide whether it’s a rephrasing of the God of the gaps argument, or whether it’s intended as a swipe at another poster.

"Nature abhors a vacuum" so, in this particular instance where much could not be explained, religion filled the vacuum.

Callistemon

^But I’m still waiting for the discussion about Polkinghorne...^

Why wait for someone else to start it geekesse?

I appended it to the parallel discussion where it fitted more naturally into the conversation.

But I’m still waiting for the discussion about Polkinghorne...

Why wait for someone else to start it geekesse?

Greeneyedgirl

Is this the String Theory which Stephen Hawkins and Thomas Hertog worked on before Hawkins death Whitewave2? I don’t understand quantum physics, but I think it means that the Big Bang theory could be wrong, and in fact the universe may be finite and far far simpler than current BB theories.

Well it was announced this week so not sure. I’m sorry I am not very helpful, but I’m sure it will be discussed on the media.

Sorry predictive text spelt Hawkings name wrongly.

Is this the String Theory which Stephen Hawkins and Thomas Hertog worked on before Hawkins death Whitewave2? I don’t understand quantum physics, but I think it means that the Big Bang theory could be wrong, and in fact the universe may be finite and far far simpler than current BB theories.

Actually the Big Bang theory may be turned in its head. I don’t for one minute understand it but apparently physicists have found another area of research that has been previously undiscovered but could answer some of the questions that could not be answered.

geekesse

Well, this is going a little better than I expected. But I’m still waiting for the discussion about Polkinghorne...

Oh, we're honoured.

Feel free to start talking about Polkinghorne. He's been on my mind since he died last month.

It was actually very good Esspee, wasn't it. They had a physics advisor, as I'm sure you know. The equations and functions on the blackboard in their flat were real theorems.

" The whole universe was a hot dense place..... "

Jumblygran never looked at it that way, but you’re so right. ?

Oh dear. I popped on here to say The Big Bang Theory was a favourite TV series of mine.

<I’ll get my coat>

Well, this is going a little better than I expected. But I’m still waiting for the discussion about Polkinghorne...

Alegrias I responded on the other thread for continuity.

I think that, in general, we need to have an explanation for the fact that we are here, that galaxies, suns and planets exist in never-ending space, as the vastness of the universe is difficult to comprehend.

If we cannot comprehend this we need to rationalise it in some way and that is how gods and religions emerged, to fill in the gaps.

As increasingly more knowledge is discovered and gaps are filled, fewer people will believe in higher beings to explain why and how we are here.

Religion was also a way to control people and, generally, people are better educated and less compliable now.

I'm just musing and hope you can follow my not-very-bright thoughts.

We went to see the film Doppelgänger many years ago.

Best picture in the world. But I would think that, I'm not very bright.

Doesn't need supernatural beings, but doesn't stop anyone believing in them either, if they want to.

I would have thought if you wanted real debate the scientific theories presented by Hugh Everett 111 of the many universes and mutiple selves would be more up to date than churning up evolution again. Do you believe that every time you make a choice, in another universe, another you takes the opposite path?
If you need help www.nbcnews.com/mach/science/weirdest-idea-quantum-physics-catching-there-may-be-endless-worlds-ncna1068706

Are we a result of selective breeding from 'Gods' ie other beings who were far more advanced than us?

Sorry I meant what and why people believe in God

Here’s my opinion as a not very bright person.
I think there is plenty of documented evidence out there for evolution, to convince me as a humanist. However I think what and why people believe is nothing to do with evidence and intelligence, but far more complex.