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The devil

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MissAdventure Mon 18-Apr-22 15:28:18

Does he (or she) exist?
In what way does he impact people's lives?

Blossoming Mon 18-Apr-22 20:08:32

I do like Crowley in Good Omens, but he’s a demon rather than a devil.

MissAdventure Mon 18-Apr-22 20:03:31

Would you care to share an example, pinkprincess?
It's fine if not, of course. smile
I'm finding this intriguing.

Smileless2012 Mon 18-Apr-22 19:47:11

pinkprincessgrin.

pinkprincess Mon 18-Apr-22 19:43:32

I think the devil sometimes appears in human form. I have met him/her a few times.

maddyone Mon 18-Apr-22 19:39:16

NanKate

The nearest I know to the Devil is Putin!

Me too.

maddyone Mon 18-Apr-22 19:37:29

Evil exists but it’s not promoted by the devil because there is no such thing.

Smileless2012 Mon 18-Apr-22 19:37:05

Yes I do MissA. I believe that that is why Jesus came, to set us free.

Redhead56 Mon 18-Apr-22 19:31:43

No god exists only goodness in human nature and devil is when human nature isn’t good. We get the choice it’s our free will to decide what to be. That’s my opinion but each to their own as the saying goes.

Doodledog Mon 18-Apr-22 19:29:09

snowberryZ

I watched We Need to talk about Kevin on Netflix recently.
I know it's only fiction but that boy was truly evil in my opinion.
I know a mother's love is supposed to be unconditional but I could never forgive my child for doing that to a sibling.

Completely tangental to the thread, but if you read the book you might doubt whether Kevin was responsible for a lot of what he was blamed for. I enjoyed the film, but thought it lost a lot of the ambiguity of the book, which was much more about nature/nurture than the film got across.

MissAdventure Mon 18-Apr-22 19:04:48

So, smileless, do you think the earth is in the hands of Lucifer?

Blondiescot Mon 18-Apr-22 18:57:19

Hetty58

Blondiescot, same here - I thought they went together - but I don't believe in either. To me, they're mythical beings, like dragons and unicorns.

Absolutely, Hetty58!

Smileless2012 Mon 18-Apr-22 18:31:44

Yes that's right and as God had already given him earth as a sign of his love for him, when he fell from grace, he took earth with him.

John 12 v 31 "Now is the time for judgement on this world, now the prince of this world will be driven out". The prince being referred too is Lucifer/Satan.

MissAdventure Mon 18-Apr-22 18:21:39

He was the brightest star, and God's favourite, from my very limited knowledge.

Smileless2012 Mon 18-Apr-22 18:19:49

Yes he was MissA.

Fennel Mon 18-Apr-22 18:16:06

What it means to me is the choice I have to do the right thing or not. I usually know which is the right thing.
but can I make the decisision ?

ginny Mon 18-Apr-22 17:53:48

No I don’t believe The Devil exists any more than God exists.
There is good , bad and much in between . Most of us have some of each in our nature.

NanKate Mon 18-Apr-22 17:37:45

The nearest I know to the Devil is Putin!

Hetty58 Mon 18-Apr-22 17:34:42

Blondiescot, same here - I thought they went together - but I don't believe in either. To me, they're mythical beings, like dragons and unicorns.

MissAdventure Mon 18-Apr-22 17:32:22

Wasn't Lucifer cast out of heaven?

Blondiescot Mon 18-Apr-22 17:31:21

eazybee

I believe in God, but not The Devil, but I do believe in evil and its power.

I didn't think you could have one without the other...

snowberryZ Mon 18-Apr-22 17:29:25

I watched We Need to talk about Kevin on Netflix recently.
I know it's only fiction but that boy was truly evil in my opinion.
I know a mother's love is supposed to be unconditional but I could never forgive my child for doing that to a sibling.

eazybee Mon 18-Apr-22 17:07:19

I believe in God, but not The Devil, but I do believe in evil and its power.

Grannybags Mon 18-Apr-22 17:04:50

Riverwalk

In my opinion there's no devil, just as there's no god.

Agree

Polly73 Mon 18-Apr-22 16:56:28

My ex was ‘devilish’ handsome…..which was probably the cause of our downfall as everyone else thought so too - and he wasn’t one to resist!

MissAdventure Mon 18-Apr-22 15:48:34

I'll probably forget my hearing aids!