The devil

I think he/it exists,too. He is amongst us. Not a scary, red eyed creepy thing though- he has many guises. Where there’s sin, he is around.

Yes, the devil definitely does exist. Just as God exists.

How do you find and resurrect these threads Grantanow ? And why ?

Of course he (or she) doesn't exist. It's all part of the jam tomorrow system underpinning social control.

Oh bugger

Hello Jane and Poppy
Sadly, no
The message sent ok, so she hasn’t left.
Callistemon said that she would ask around, she hasn’t mentioned anything yet

Poppyred

JaneJudge

Has anyone seen Miss Adveture?

I was thinking exactly the same thing……

I hope she is okay @FannyCornforth has she got back to you?

JaneJudge

Has anyone seen Miss Adveture?

I was thinking exactly the same thing……

Grantanow

The 'Devil' was invented by the church in the Middle Ages to keep the masses in fear. The mentions of the Devil in the Bible are not references to the same being. The Devil mentioned in the story of Lot for example was a member of God's court. Religion is a device for keeping the people in order and Heaven is simply an example of jam tomorrow. That's why the Tories are so keen on religion.

This absolutely..

Me too. We miss you MissA

I hope she's ok x

JaneJudge

Adventure

Truly great minds think alike.
Funnily enough, on seeing this thread in the list, I have just pmed her.

Adventure

Has anyone seen Miss Adveture?

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humans created god who created the devil,in christianity,give that to a young mind,a great way to instill fear.However when i look at the world, i have to think that it is run by the devil or at least dark forces, as for where is god in this? i believe tentatively in a deist god.The subject of good(god) evil(devil) is vast and has been debated ad finitum,I like the quote 'the devil comes as everything you ever wanted'

More interesting? Could you expand a little?

Satan is more interesting the the Devil.

I'm sure you missed that very much GrannyRose.
However the good thing was many churches started streaming services and have continued to do so.

I agree with your post of 22 41. Hadn't actually thought of that.

Depends what you mean by 'the devil'. if you mean the guy woth horns and cloven feet and a large fork, No I doubt it.

A spirit of evil? Like Putin?

nadateturbe

GrannyRose15 the world would not be very meaningful to me without my faith.

I agree. One reason lockdown was so very bleak for me was I was prevented from spending one hour a week in a very beautiful place listening to uplifting music.

I've never ever said I wanted a world without religion btw? Where. I said it should be a private matter, and that Governement and all linked institutions should be freed from religious influence.

What you want is actually impossible. Everyone brings their private beliefs and values into whatever job they are doing. Sometimes overtly, sometimes without even knowing they are doing it. Therefore you cannot have government without religious influence.

That was a great film Witzend. Its shows how a mythical figure may be part of a really good story.

Not the point, I know, but an old-ish film I’d love to watch again is The Devil’s Advocate (IIRC) in which an ambitious young lawyer lands a ‘plum’ job in a law firm that turns out to be not what it seems.
An excellent twist at the end IIRC.

As I recall the devil was played all too believably by Al Pacino.
Must have a look on Netflix, but alas they don’t often have anything I really fancy watching.

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