Not to Be Served , but to Serve.

Germanshepherdsmum

I suggest you do a little reading Fleurpepper. You will discover for yourself that the king, like his mother, is deeply religious, rather than expecting others to provide evidence for you.

I have, and I remember him being very clear some years back, that when he accessed the Throne he would respect the fact that the UK is now a very multicultural country, with many Faiths, and that the Christian Church itself is now many facetted, and that this should be respecte. He got William to say so on his behalf, but had no choice but to bow to tradition and the massive power of the CofE.

But all my readings over the past 50 years do not lead me to believe that Charles is a 'deeply religious man'- which is why I would be grateful to be given evidence of this. I am not expecting anything from anyone- just a polite request. And I don't think Camila is either.

Glorianny I also have a bit of problem with transgression in the Christian faith. For example, when a Catholic can go to confession and have their sins forgiven, how many times, I don't know. Isn't it something like 77 times forgiveness in the Bible?

Maddyone, the unfortunate thing about the Coronation service is exactly what you point out. The Church of England must be disestablished . A disestablished church is in a position to instruct the monarch that he is too rich and must be more socialist, like Jesus.

Matthew 19. 24
Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the kingdom of God.”

Callistemon21

Glorianny

Bizziebe

In the words of "I Was Glad", Psalm 122, I am pleased you say it was all a load of tosh Glorianny. That justifiably allows us to call your attempts to defend M & H's lives of service "a load of tosh" too.

Don't think I have ever "defended M&H's lives of service" simply said that they should be free to do as they wish and they do a lot of charity work.
Being "in service" was what happened to both my grandmothers at age 13, and I'm pretty sure neither Charles nor M&H would have a clue about that.

Just like your grandmothers, he has had no choice in the matter.

Of course he has. He could abdicate. He would still be disgustingly rich, if they'd left they would have been homeless and starved

But all my readings over the past 50 years do not lead me to believe that Charles is a 'deeply religious man'- which is why I would be grateful to be given evidence of this. I am not expecting anything from anyone- just a polite request.
I guess it depends on how much a deeply religious person publicly professes their faith. So Charles could be more deeply religious than the Pope, but just because he doesn't pray over his people every day and wear robes we might perceive him as less so?

Without getting too poetic, I myself can feel deeply religious when I marvel at the radiant beauty in nature. Charles we know experiences such emotions. Just trying to offer thought here.

Bizziebe, I think so too. He may be the best monarch we ever had, better than his mother.

A good start for his "reign" would be for Charles to pick up the tab for a substantial part of the coronation.

That is a good point Louis. Let it be noted that the star of the show, Penny Mordaunt ,paid for her own costume from her own slender means.

If Charles did pay for any part of the coronation we wouldn’t know, they don’t speak of money they give.

Would God approve of our monarchy and it's wealth? I am having trouble with this question. All our local churches had Coronation parties, and I'm not sure I want to attend atm. Perhaps one of those who believe in God could give me their views.

Anniebach

If Charles did pay for any part of the coronation we wouldn’t know, they don’t speak of money they give.

And if we were told, the next comments would automatically be not enough.

True Mollygo

Would God approve?
Even on GN, where people know the most amazing things, I’ve never heard anyone claim to know what God thinks.
I’d like to know whether posters think God would disapprove, and whether His disapproval would extend to all wealth, or be limited to King Charles?

nadateturbe

Would God approve of our monarchy and it's wealth? I am having trouble with this question. All our local churches had Coronation parties, and I'm not sure I want to attend atm. Perhaps one of those who believe in God could give me their views.

I'm not sure how God would feel about our monarchy nadateturbe but I am reminded of a quote by Oliver Cromwell, a deeply religious man.
It's an odd thing, Mr. Ireton. Every man who wages war believes God is on his side. I'll warrant God should often wonder who is on his.

I am puzzled why atheists ask what God thinks , if there is no God it’s a silly question

Strange isn’t it it? Maybe subconscious hedging of bets is at play.

Isn't the point about wealth that if you believe Jesus was God's voice on earth then you know what God thinks about it. Unfortunately for many Christians that doesn't seem to translate into actions. They continue to acquire wealth.

Glorianny

Callistemon21

Glorianny

Bizziebe

In the words of "I Was Glad", Psalm 122, I am pleased you say it was all a load of tosh Glorianny. That justifiably allows us to call your attempts to defend M & H's lives of service "a load of tosh" too.

Don't think I have ever "defended M&H's lives of service" simply said that they should be free to do as they wish and they do a lot of charity work.
Being "in service" was what happened to both my grandmothers at age 13, and I'm pretty sure neither Charles nor M&H would have a clue about that.

Just like your grandmothers, he has had no choice in the matter.

Of course he has. He could abdicate. He would still be disgustingly rich, if they'd left they would have been homeless and starved

Except for about £40 million left to H by his mother . . .

Sorry, rereading that, you meant your grandmothers would have been homeless and starved. So would mine. I read it as meaning H & M.

There are various kinds of lack of choice.

The lesson Jesus was teaching when he told the rich young man to give up all his wealth and follow him, was that wealth be it the desire to acquire it and/or the 'worship' of what has already been acquired it can distract those who have it from seeking the kingdom of God.

You don't have to poor to be a Christian and/or be against the acquisition of wealth as long as you don't put wealth before God.

Again, why be concerned with a God one does not believe in.

That's my understanding too Smileless2012. Basically, no one can "serve" two masters. You can't serve/worship God and money. I think because devotion to the one sort of blots out the other. But if you have wealth in the first place or earn it, I guess that is OK.

Anniebach wrote: "Again, why be concerned with a God one does not believe in."

I agree Anniebach. Like many others I seek a God I can believe in. The sayings of Jesus guide me in my search.

At last someone has said that Charles-out of his apparent but secretive vast wealth-should reimburse the public spending out of his own pocket. Especially at present. How can this request be made known do you think?