Exorcism needed by a friend near me

Oh dear.

I don0t know why or what the ghosts are after. Are they real souls or just a recording of a life lost? My aunties neighbor had a home that was previously a brewery some 400 years ago and every night the barrells were heard rolling.

Update so far - my friend has now been referred to the relevant bit of the Anglican Church/church in Wales. So I guess it shouldnt be long now before they visit her and "do their thing".
Hopefully the unwanted visitors won't be around much longer...

Updates if possible, please
Very interesting, thank you to whoever posted the book of the priest who does exorcisms and has a book out.

spabbygirl

CariadAgain

Thanks re mentioning Jason Bray. I've checked out that book - and ordered myself a copy whilst I'm on the subject. Have passed the info. on to my friend and suggested she get a copy too. At the least - she'll have an idea what to expect an Anglican "visit" will be like.

I liked that book and Jason, CariadAgain I liked knowing what a deliverance minister actually does too. It sounds like he's not too far from you so if it felt appropriate you could ask for his help, at least he could recommend someone if needed.
Good luck with it, it would be lovely to know how it works out if you've time.

I've found him. I have his contact details. So I've told my friend and we'll wait to see what happens now.

With what she has been telling me to date about the incidents I said to her "It may be that you have someone come onto the scene recently that is on your side and trying to help you - as you're saying about new stuff". The latest things she has said to me about what is happening look like it might be possible there is a new (positive this time) person?/other being on the scene now that may be actively helping her. It's not clear on that yet - or whether it's more of the negative type of "haunting" manifesting in a different way - so we wait to see what/who this recent development is.

I tell her I'm optimistic personally. I had one solitary incident the day I moved into my current house. My friend and I were standing in my house after the removal van had driven off and there was a loud bang type noise clearly audible in my home. I suspect the elderly woman who had had it before me might have died in my house. My friend and I both heard that noise very clearly and looked at each other startled. I instantly wondered if it was the last owner of my house. I just turned round and loudly and firmly said "It's MY house now. Will you leave please?". That was the end of that - not a peep of anything or anyone "suspicious" ever since. So, if that was someone of the "dead" variety = well they left....#shrugs.

My (possible) "visitor" on their one-off visit might have been trying to warn me about the neighbours in the event. She was a more typical old-fashioned etc sorta woman than I am and probably WAY easier to walk over than I am. If it was her - then I think she realised I don't live in a typical female type way...I'm more modern and positive than that.

On moving in here - I found quite a pile of legal documents for my house since the year it was built - which she'd left for me to read/have. So I did read my way right through them to see if there was any major points of note. There was. There was a fair bit of evidence in that paperwork that the neighbours had "tried it on" rather with her (and possibly the owners before her?). I formed the conclusion she had realised what they were like and what they were doing was wrong - but didnt have the strength or something to stand up to them.

She'd given me the information and I did have the strength to stand up to them - and did so (eg kicking them out of trespassing in my garden). So I think my solitary "visit" I think I had here was possibly of a benevolent/helpful version.

Anyways - I've given my friend all the info. she needs to fight back against her unwelcome intruders and we'll see how things go....and whether we can prevail against them.

CariadAgain

Thanks re mentioning Jason Bray. I've checked out that book - and ordered myself a copy whilst I'm on the subject. Have passed the info. on to my friend and suggested she get a copy too. At the least - she'll have an idea what to expect an Anglican "visit" will be like.

I liked that book and Jason, CariadAgain I liked knowing what a deliverance minister actually does too. It sounds like he's not too far from you so if it felt appropriate you could ask for his help, at least he could recommend someone if needed.
Good luck with it, it would be lovely to know how it works out if you've time.

Thanks re mentioning Jason Bray. I've checked out that book - and ordered myself a copy whilst I'm on the subject. Have passed the info. on to my friend and suggested she get a copy too. At the least - she'll have an idea what to expect an Anglican "visit" will be like.

Great article here about how Jason Bray, an Anglican vicar, works in his deliverance ministry

metro.co.uk/2024/11/23/meet-priest-whose-paranormal-encounters-will-make-skin-crawl-21877731/

I had a spiritual encounter, I volunteer in Kelmscott Manor and one day before it opened I crossed an empty room to go to the loo. As I pulled a door closed behind me for some reason I looked over my shoulder and a disembodied voice said in my ear, 'Boo!' this is in keeping with other things that happened in the house. My mum also had an experience in a Landmark Trust house, Margells in Devon.

Anyway, someone else has mentioned but Jason Bray does deliverance ministry in Wales, he wrote a book about this aspect of his work and was interviewed on tv so if you google him lots comes up. His book is called 'Deliverance' and is a great read.

He seems to be at Llandaff cathedral so should be easy to contact.

My mum's story is here if anyone's interested
weird-wiltshire.co.uk/2024/02/26/the-mysterious-ghostly-monk-at-margells/

Further update re my friend and her family and their haunted house being that she got tied-up dealing with other stuff - but says she's now got onto it urgently after what her hairdresser said to her.

The hairdresser has just sent her an email after a chat with another client. The other client talked about a house in her village known to be a haunted house and the hairdresser sent my friend a photo the client had shown. Cue for my friend going "It's my house she's talking about!".

The client and dog and several others had gone into her house one time (must have been whilst last owner was there) and the dog pointblank refused to go in there and bolted for it. Client and the people with her heard exactly the same noises (heavy footsteps) as my friend and her family hear in exactly the same place.

That's thoroughly spooked her and she said she'd really like to sell the house and move back to England (just as the previous owners did in the event) - but houses aren't basically selling at the moment. Someone somewhere though needs to evict the "unwanted guests" and the family like it here in other respects and the daughters have found a local mentor here they obviously adore..chosen a career path accordingly.

So she's started with sending an email to the Anglican vicar about being put in touch with the Anglican churches relevant people about this. She'll work her way through the rest of my suggestions if the Anglicans can't get rid of the unwanted guests - but fingers crossed they can.

I was once going through a very lonely phase in my life, and took myself off alone to a small Highland village that special to my parents and brothers, all deceased.

I had my dogs with me, thank goodness! Never again would I return to any place so riddled with ghosts from my past! At one point on a quiet road by the loch after taking a look round to make sure I was quite alone , except for the dogs I said out loud "you are all dead. I'm alive and I am going to leave you here."

However the experience my daughter in law had was of a ghost she actually saw and heard. Why her story is more impressive than mine is she is not an imaginative person. She is matter-of -fact and has no interest in stories let alone ghost stories ,or local history. So her experience really impressed my normally unbelieving son. Also it happened in a busy shopping arcade with lots of people around. When she met up with my son a few minutes after the encounter she was shaking and upset, again completely out of character for her.

a teacher with no previous mental illness,dabbled with an ouiji board,result ,ended up sectioned, hearing voices.A friend ,a psychiatric nurse told me this story.Ive meditated for many years, without a sense of protection, my meditation will be rarely beneficial.There is a book 'the buddha pill' that has many cases of people being adversely affected by meditation.The idea is that if you open yourself up, then negative energies /entities can enter you, sounds woo woo but who knows?

I think he was upset we were moving, DH and I and one of my DCs had all seen him regularly but hadn’t ever felt any anger until then. He must have been unsettled poor soul.

Coconutty

I often see ghosts. If it didn’t happen to me I wouldn’t believe it.

We’ve only ever had one really angry one at home though, he threw a really heavy wooden thing across the kitchen. Luckily we were moving the next day or I would have called a priest in.

Perhaps he was angry because he knew you were moving? - ie you were a known quantity so to say and maybe he felt he could "live with you" okay, but didnt know what the next household would be like?

It doesn't seem illogical to me that if a previous owner of a house was still "living there" - but in ghost form - they would be wary about what comes next. I know that I was hoping it would be a decent person that would take on my last home when I sold it - though basically my concern was the standard one of getting paid as much money as I could for it - and I was going to take whoever won the bidding war I had on the day my former house sold and two contenders had offered on it on the same day.

Yep....I'd "known" how long it would be on the market for and was virtually waiting on the phone that day for the estate agent to ring and tell me it had just had an acceptable offer finally...but was glad it was the local would-be home-owner who'd obviously chosen my house for the sake of the nearby school for her young daughter to start at that won that by offering most. The other contender was a landlord couple who wanted it to rent out - hence my pleasure that it was a home-owner that wanted it most.

Not forgetting the fact that "someone or something" made that loud noise inside this house the day I moved into it - and both my friend and I clearly heard it - and I instantly thought "That's the last owner - come to check out the new one (ie me)". I wasnt surprised she had popped in - but didn't want her to hang around obviously - and hence me telling her to leave firmly.

I often see ghosts. If it didn’t happen to me I wouldn’t believe it.

We’ve only ever had one really angry one at home though, he threw a really heavy wooden thing across the kitchen. Luckily we were moving the next day or I would have called a priest in.

Caleo

I think I know how you felt, Cariad. My little dog died in February. I still expect to see and hear him
and sometimes I do think I hear him. The feeling of his presence is strong at certain times.

That's perfectly possible imo.

My father was rather an atheist/humanist and I think that changed to more agnostic at the time he had a heart bypass operation and found himself in one of those scenarios we hear about sometimes - of floating up there at the operating theatre ceiling watching what they were doing.

It was after that some years later that his beloved dog died and I wasnt surprised when my mother saw her one time - but I was rather more surprised when I commented to him about that and he very matter-of-factly said "Oh yes...I know she does come visiting sometimes - as I'm aware she's sitting there in her favourite place by the side of my chair. I can 'feel' her there".

I think I know how you felt, Cariad. My little dog died in February. I still expect to see and hear him
and sometimes I do think I hear him. The feeling of his presence is strong at certain times.

theworriedwell

Caleo

The worriedwell wrote :

" I'm a sceptic and I was clear about how confusing it was for me to have this experience when I don't believe in paranormal experiences."

I'd be worried too if I saw an apparently real ghost. Worrying over problems is part of real life.

What would you have---a possible explanation from another sceptic , or another anecdote ?

A possible explanation would be something like "was there anything near the bed that could have looked like a figure.". That wasn't what you did, you made a mocking remark.

Agree.

One first of all looks for rational explanations for anything and, if there aren't any, then there could well be an alternative one.

These things do happen and at a variety of levels.

Just remembering now a next door neighbour to my last house. He was elderly and his wife had died before I moved into that house. He was a bit of a curmudgeon.....and relationship between us was very variable accordingly. But he was an extremely conventional person and I do remember him saying to me that he distinctly heard his wife calling to him shortly after she died. Just calling his name a couple of times and his explanation was that, as she'd only died in the previous few days before then, that maybe she hadn't found her way yet and was wondering what had happened to her. Sounded logical to me - and I wasn't going to mention the fact at one point that there he was in one of his sitting room chairs and I was in another one and I couldn't see anyone sitting in the third chair - but I "felt" there was and she was sitting there too. I had no proof of that one - but just a "feeling" of "Oh....his wife is sitting over there. I won't say anything - as I'm only 'feeling' it and can't see her or hear her". Best way I could put it would be "The air sorta felt different there in a human sorta shape". Maybe that was all - as there are two things I don't want to see - ghosts and UFO's. Basically I don't wish to perceive anything "out of the ordinary" in that respect - but just "know" things that will be useful to me and so that does happen sometimes.

The neighbour concerned wouldn't have been bothered about my feeling his dead wife was there - as right from Day 1 there'd been the odd bit of "stuff" going on. That being I was in the process of trying to find a suitable starter house to buy and not getting anywhere (as all the estate agents were sending me details of unsuitable ones - though I had been very specific I needed a layout suitable for taking in the lodger I'd have to have to start with for those hefty mortgage payments). So I had picked out the best starter house streets I could afford, had got my list of 5-6 of them and decided I was going to go and walk up them in turn and carefully study the road and wait for someone to tell me there was a house for sale for me to buy. First time I walked up that street I was thinking "Yep....suitable road for me....now what about the houses in it?" and, when I got to my house-to-be I stood outside it and analysed it very carefully from outside (though there was no "for sale" sign or anything to indicate it was available). I'd worked my way down visually - roof to walls to windows and then stood there fixed on it as suitable. Out came the next door neighbour (him) and invited me in for a cup of tea and told me it was about to be put up for sale within the week. Cue for I was on my second viewing of it the day before the estate agent details were due to go out....

Caleo

The worriedwell wrote :

" I'm a sceptic and I was clear about how confusing it was for me to have this experience when I don't believe in paranormal experiences."

I'd be worried too if I saw an apparently real ghost. Worrying over problems is part of real life.

What would you have---a possible explanation from another sceptic , or another anecdote ?

A possible explanation would be something like "was there anything near the bed that could have looked like a figure.". That wasn't what you did, you made a mocking remark.

I could tell a true story about an experience one of my daughters in law had. I'd not credit that she saw a real ghost and was visibly upset by the encounter except that this woman is down to earth and not the sort to even be interested in ghosts or suchlike happenings. The story is not mine to tell but is still extraordinary in all its details.

The worriedwell wrote :

" I'm a sceptic and I was clear about how confusing it was for me to have this experience when I don't believe in paranormal experiences."

I'd be worried too if I saw an apparently real ghost. Worrying over problems is part of real life.

What would you have---a possible explanation from another sceptic , or another anecdote ?

I always do a burning sage herb cleansing around all the walls and corners of every room whenever I move into a new house..

My sister, one of the most sane and grounded people I know, had the following experience:

She was staying with extended family where unfortunately there was also a woman who had a severe drinking problem, she was an aggressive drunk.

During the time my sister was there, this woman died in her sleep one night. Very traumatic for everyone concerned. Over the next few nights, very strange things happened in the house - a huge, heavy wardrobe fell over when there was no one in the room. The bed in the room where she had died, was pulled away from the wall and left askance in the middle of the room. There were a few other strange happenings but I don't remember them.

These inexplicable events completely freaked my sister out and she left sharp shoot.

Even now many years later, she is reluctant to talk about it, but will say "It was the weirdest thing ever". 👻

Caleo

On a public forum when you make an extraordinary claim you risk having the claim challenged.

Either Gransnet may include objective points of view or not, and the moderator should make this clear.

I'm sorry to have hurt anyone's feelings, especially Cariad who is such a good writer. I'm really interested in the paranormal from an objective point of view; maybe I should seek some other forum where paranormal experiences are expected to be discussed objectively.

You didn't challenge what I said, you mocked it. I'm a sceptic and I was clear about how confusing it was for me to have this experience when I don't believe in paranormal experiences.

Caleo

My story about the drip stand . I did not feel I was mocking, I felt I was sceptical.

It definitely seemed more mocking than sceptical.