a Patriot grieving the loss of the America who fought WW2.

The fight against tyranny - book banning/burning - the irony has not escaped me. The banning of the "mentally unfit"- trans unable to join the army

My Dad's generation and politics learnt from him.

Yes me!

That generation were imbued with the idea of freedom and democracy.

My grandfather and father served in both wars, and I learned so much from them.
We have people like Trump tearing it done.

I am not a child of the greatest generation but my beloved aunt was. She was a policewoman during the war and key to her being was an unwavering belief in duty, democracy, the social contract and the welfare state. Of vital importance to her was the fostering of peace and accord amongst nations, especially in Europe and with our allies.

Brexit concerned her greatly. She sadly died during the pandemic but I hear her voice at my shoulder still and know she would be horrified by current events in America.

I was brought up to have some reservations about the US when McCarthy stared the crazy persecution of the left but at the same time Dad's hero was the magnificent Paul Robeson (black lawyer turned singer, as he wasn't allowed to practice law, banned from the US by McCarthy) and civil rights movement there too. But also the United Nations and the peace movement, and anti colonialism.

Indulging a moment with Paul Robeson accused by McCarthy;'s tribunal speaking up for the poor an oppressed
www.youtube.com/watch?v=akj4lrS1bFY

Paul Robeson was much loved by the mining community here too, especially in Wales.

They were very different times. It makes me feel ashamed.

I think Brexit was the ultimate disrespect to that generation who gave so much in the defence of freedom and democracy. It makes me very sad...

keepingquiet

Paul Robeson was much loved by the mining community here too, especially in Wales.

They were very different times. It makes me feel ashamed.

I think Brexit was the ultimate disrespect to that generation who gave so much in the defence of freedom and democracy. It makes me very sad...

I know about the miners too, there are wonderful U tube videos of the singing. What a voice, what a history. My parents were perhaps too politically involved in one way I had rather an unusual upbringing but what I learnt! The Aldermaston mar cheese at age 8....All those pink areas on primary school maps of the world and the reality of the empire......

not cheese...😂

aldermaston marches...

On Anzac Day, today, I remember my great Uncle who died aged 21 ,1916, near Fromelles. He had emigrated to Australia on his own just before the war and fought in the AIF. Also my Dad who was a navigator in World War 2. He survived but most of his mates were killed in bombing raids over Germany.
I doubt the USA under their current leader would have helped the Europeans, too busy making the place ‘great’ again.

Thanks for these replies. It can feel lonely/scary to voice fear for America- and rage at those who are attacking our ideals. The true "enemy within". It's good to be able to say something (alebit anonymously for safety). Oh and I listened to Robeson. I can't believe the inquisitors! In America! Especially the guy who wanted to keep "your kind" out. Despicable. And... familiar.

What a dignified talent Paul Robeson was. Unlike some.

Supportive thoughts, NanaMaryNH. there are some other threads over too on the new and politics forum. Yes keeping "your kind" out must have a poignant ring to it. What history has gone through since ...

1957 Paul Robeson addressed a miners eisteddfod via telephone link from America. He addressed the miners and sang the Welsh National Anthem with a Welsh choir and 5,000 miners responded with We’ll Keep A Welcome In The Hillside’

Wasn't it amazing, Annie? We didnt live in Wales but my Dad told us all about it and we had Robeson records.

My grandfathers ww1, my father ww2. They were gentle strong sensible men. Grandpa said our war should never have happened, your dad’s war had to and we had to win it.

My parents and grandpa were admirers of Paul Robson. Mum unimpressed by the GIs stationed near her ATS camp. Both relieved Wilson kept us out of Vietnam. But how must US veterans feel?

When did the Hitlers change their name to Trump?

Many GNs will have relatives who served during WW2. Those relatives made the world safe for us to grow up in and thrive. We should try to find another way of 'fighting back'. One way is through the ballot box. Vote every time you can, no matter how 'insignificant' the position. Vote tactically where necessary.
'Money makes the world go round', and we all have purchase power. Some whole countries are using that weapon just now. We can do the same in our own small way.
Sometimes keyboard warriers are mocked, but using social media can be a way to give support.
Stay in touch. Most of us agree with you.

Iam64

My grandfathers ww1, my father ww2. They were gentle strong sensible men. Grandpa said our war should never have happened, your dad’s war had to and we had to win it.

My parents and grandpa were admirers of Paul Robson. Mum unimpressed by the GIs stationed near her ATS camp. Both relieved Wilson kept us out of Vietnam. But how must US veterans feel?

There was a Foyles War repeat on a coupe nights ago, set at the time GI's were in the South of the UK in WW2.

The story was of how many black GI's were treated by many (not all) of the whites GI's who had all the power and that they managed to persuade/force at one point local "colour bars" in the English pubs, how some accepted and some refused.

Little chunk of history. (Foyle, of course, refused to accept this......)

I'm here. Dual citizen of the US and UK. Born in the US, with plenty of family who have gone before me who gave their lives to protect and uphold the Constitution.

It's a sad state of affairs. I wish it were only that. However, it is also an incredibly dangerous state of affairs.

My son is to be married in October. I did some investigating and research and found that it would be a very dangerous decision for my husband and I go fly there, given the current situation and the impending worsening of said situation.

I wish with all my heart it were different. My family is divided, my elderly mother, who has been fighting Melanoma for many years is overwhelmed with the inflation of her medical needs.

I have a beautiful Granddaughter , who will be turning 15 next year and I worry desperately for her. My son and my younger sister are both on the side of t-rump.

I simply cannot give that name any respect. I feel it would betray all that I believe in and stand for.

I worry for those who will be hit the hardest, which will sadly be those who overwhelmingly voted for him. "I love the poorly educated", said he, years ago. And that still stands true.

Heartbroken, really.

-Miss Redd

NanaMaryNH

Thanks for these replies. It can feel lonely/scary to voice fear for America- and rage at those who are attacking our ideals. The true "enemy within". It's good to be able to say something (alebit anonymously for safety). Oh and I listened to Robeson. I can't believe the inquisitors! In America! Especially the guy who wanted to keep "your kind" out. Despicable. And... familiar.

Thinking of you, NanaMaryNH, and standing by your side. You are not alone. There are many of us "out here" who are with you.

I fully agree with what you are saying and want to validate how you are feeling.

Take good care,
-Miss Redd