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Good news from Fukushima

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Nelliemoser Mon 19-Aug-13 18:10:37

To say I was a little taken aback was something of an understatement! I felt, for a moment as if I had hit a pornographic site.
Whew! #mopsheadinshock.

Ariadne Mon 19-Aug-13 17:47:24

What I am pointing out, after my amazement and incredulty at "The Vine of Life" articles, is that this particular article does not appear to constitute the sort of rigorous intellectual enquiry that the topic deserves.

Ariadne Mon 19-Aug-13 17:30:39

A copied bit from a reader of said publication, about an article denying the reality of the moon landing:

The sun, as a single albeit huge light source millions of miles away, can’t cast shadows at opposing angles from 2 objects a couple of yards from each other. The pictures of the moon landings simply cannot be real. The question therefore is why was it all set up and faked, and this video does a pretty good job in answering that. Well made film. Bravo.

Ariadne Mon 19-Aug-13 17:25:43

The articles recommended at the side of this one are interesting, and do give, maybe, some insight into the direction of the publication. "Homosexuality is a sin." for example, and one or two proselytising headlines. Is it funded by a fundamentalist religious organisation, maybe? if so, there may be an axe to grind that is not of a scientific origin.

Will investigate.

Nelliemoser Mon 19-Aug-13 17:18:54

Just what kind of website is that?? What planet is it run from? shock confused

carboncareful Mon 19-Aug-13 15:14:24

So sorry, that's twice I've posted the wrong link.....trouble is can't delete like on facebook...............so, here goes, try again: -

vineoflifenews.com/fukushima-a-nuclear-war-without-a-war/

carboncareful Mon 19-Aug-13 15:07:28

arctic-news.blogspot.co.uk/2012/08/diagram-of-doom.html

carboncareful Mon 19-Aug-13 15:07:09

http://arctic-news.blogspot.co.uk/2012/08/diagram-of-doom.html

AlieOxon Mon 17-Dec-12 12:12:19

Wait 25 years and see what happens.....

whenim64 Mon 17-Dec-12 12:07:10

It's occurred to me from reading this report that any worker exposed to radiation would have had enforced separation from their families for specific periods of time after they had been clearing up. Some standard radiation treatments on the thyroid mean partners have to sleep in separate beds for a whiie and not go near children. Presumably, if their thyroids were being tested, other precautions would be taking place, too.

Granny23 Mon 17-Dec-12 11:30:43

I do not pretend to understand the detail of this report any more than if it were published in Japanese, but it does appear to be good news indeed and that prompt and thorough decontamination has been effective. It is good to know that UNSCEAR are monitoring the situation on behalf of the whole World. Always sceptical, (especially where the nuclear industry is concerned) I am aware of the 'they would say that wouldn't they' factor, however this is tempered by the knowledge that Japan is a very 'internet savvy' nation and I am convinced that we would have heard about individual cases or any attempts at a cover-up.

Bags Mon 17-Dec-12 10:45:24

Info from the Report of the United Nations Scientific Committee on the Effects of Atomic Radiation
Fifty-ninth session (21-25 May 2012)

(a) To date, there have been no health effects attributed to radiation exposure observed among workers, the people with the highest radiation exposures. To date, no health effects attributable to radiation exposure have been observed among children or any other member of the population;
(b) As of 31 January 2012, a total of 20,115 occupationally exposed people, comprising company workers (17 per cent) and external contractors (83 per cent) of the Tokyo Electric Power Company (TEPCO), were involved in the on-site mitigation activities. About 66 per cent of the workforce are reported to have received effective doses equal to or below 10 millisieverts (mSv). In addition, rescuers and volunteers were occupationally exposed. Six TEPCO workers received effective doses above 250 mSv (the maximum reported dose as of 31 January 2012 was 679 mSv); the largest part of those doses resulted from intakes of 131I, 134Cs and 137Cs. About 170 occupationally exposed people received effective doses above 100 mSv. It should be emphasized that there are no data available in the open literature that allow estimates to be made of thyroid dose for occupationally exposed people. The Committee has requested further information from the Japanese authorities on worker doses and monitoring data;
(c) A system was established on 20 May 2011 for the management of radiation exposures and medical monitoring of occupationally exposed people involved in dealing with the emergency situation. As of 10 March 2012, none of the six deaths noted since 11 March 2011 had been attributed to exposure to ionizing radiation;
(d) Although there were several cases of occupationally exposed people with exposure to radiation from documented skin contamination, no clinically observable effects were reported.

Full report here (top link on the page):

www.unscear.org/unscear/en/data/index_right.html