Polar Bears seem to be at full capacity in two areas

I don't think there would be too many walkers in Scottish forests if wolves were on the loose!

Thank goodness then that there is somebody with some sensitivity on GN. What on earth is your objection to it, j08?? I bet you don't like the one about Albert and the 'orses 'ead 'andle either.

J08 That is rubbish; wolves and Lynx are scared of humans and keep well out of their way. Humans have lived with wolves as long as there have been humans. There are wolves and lynx and bears all over Europe and they are no problem except to farmers who have forgotten how to look after livestock properly. Even then it is only the occasionaly animal that is taken. I have seen all three of these animals in the wild and at no time felt unsafe. Polar bears are a different kettle of fish (pun) though I have to admit - but Inuits does live with them

My Fire spelt lynx wrong, not me!

"if we had wolves or links in Scotland we wouldn' t have to keep culling deer"

There might not be too many tourists either, one way or the other.

Well, at least we know now that the baggy one did leave Gransnet, taking someone else with her!

At least they are both back now.

That poem is truly sickening. And anyone who can't see that is totally devoid of any sensitivity whatsoever.

#Gransnet

Polar bears are top predators. Eco systems depend on there being predators to regulate populations of other animals etc.
The existence or not of top predators signifies whether an eco system is healthy and sustainable or not. That is why scientists are concerned about polar bears. Scientists working in the Arctic are not soppy sentimentalists about bears any more than they are about lemmings.

PS please note, for the record, that I have never PM'd anyone with the letters bag in their name.

PPS If we had wolves or lynx in Scotland we wouldn't have to keep culling deer.

I really hope not. I read and respected her contributions and read most of the articles she posted, commenting on some.

If she has gone I will really miss her. I hope she returns under another alias.

!!!!!

FlicketyB Or it means that Bags has left GN?

I do hope not.

For some reason the poem made me think of the Walter Potter exhibition I saw at Jamaica Inn years ago, and it saddened me to read just now that it had been sold and dispersed, even though Damien Hurst had offered to pay a lot of money to keep the collection intact. There's something fascinating about the Victorian/Edwardian mindset isn't there? [or is it just me?].

I just took that poem to be a funny take on the Titanic story. I would not have taken it as anything else.

It is very much written in the style of some of the more sentimental Victorian ballads. Like this one which I just love as an example of the genre.
allpoetry.com/poem/8544309-Billys_Rose-by-George_Robert_Sims

Prepare to weep!

Phew! That is clear now. i thought you might mean something entirely different.

No what I meant was Bags OR Geraldine as the cause of this system failure could be because Bags has been receiving unpleasant PM given the vitriol that has been expressed towards her on some threads so has asked to have her PM service suspended or it could be that it is a Gransnet system failure.

Nothing more exciting

Bags/Geraldine ? You are not serious, FlicketyB ?

Bags, or should it be Geraldine? Why do attempts to PM you fail because the system says your nickname doesn't exist on the system.

Well, that's a slap on the wrist for me then, isn't it. Pardon me for breathing.

And there's no need for sobbing about polar bears either.

Actually, they might... sort of accidentally. See here for Titanic route and here for polar bear regions .

tegan, what don't you understand about my acceptance of my hasty mistake this morning?No need for sobbing

accepted. You don't have to like the poem - it's hardly in the Poet Laureate class!!

If they don't live that far south that means the poem is actually fiction .....[goes away sobbing]

I see your point, gm, and accept my response was odd in the circumstances .

But I still dislike the poem's soppy sentimentalism.

I'm also not sure polar bears live as far south as the Titanic sailed but I'll need to check that out to be sure.

I still can't see where you are coming from Bags. This poem is NOTHING about global warming, it is about the sinking of the Titanic - and as far as I know there is no connection. Your comment about "fictional content and emotional overload" making you sick is your opinion.Why is it wmore wrong-headed than any other example of anthropomorphising animals - Winnie the Pooh, Peter Rabbit, The Tiger who came to Tea, or indeed Nellie the Elephant? I don't rubbish your links. Live and let live.

Polar bear thoughts on human alarmism