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5p levy on plastic bags

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margaretm74 Thu 06-Feb-14 11:39:49

Why are they making such a FUSS about introducing a 5p levy on plastic bags jn England? I live in Wales and it is now second nature to take our own bags with us when we shop.

margaretm74 Fri 07-Feb-14 22:07:34

Yes we don't get many now, of course, but always find we need some for one reason or another.

Ana Fri 07-Feb-14 21:53:20

Sorry, roses, crossed posts - mine was of course in reply to margaret's.

Ana Fri 07-Feb-14 21:51:33

Well, perhaps customers shouldn't be so literal minded! Plenty of uses for them, as has already been said...

rosesarered Fri 07-Feb-14 21:48:08

I was in M&S last week, forgot my bag, so put a tub of coleslaw in one coat pocket, and a pack of ham in the other.After I had paid, I kept thinking a security guard would descend on me before I got to the door.Thankfully not.The bags for life are good, but my family all seem to pinch them from my cupboard for various reasons, so I constantly have to buy more.I imagine all their cupboards at home are bursting with them.

margaretm74 Fri 07-Feb-14 21:46:01

That's what they call them! Which makes sense of why there are so many littering the countryside

Ana Fri 07-Feb-14 21:10:56

Single-use bags? Do they spontaneously combust when emptied...? grin
You still have to pay 5p for the flimsy ones - I use them several times!

margaretm74 Fri 07-Feb-14 21:06:58

Home deliveries in Wales: you can pay 30p and they will deliver in single-use bags OR you can have it delivered in crates and unpack it as fast as possible while they wait for the crates.

margaretm74 Fri 07-Feb-14 19:13:06

I don't know, we have only had a delivery a couple of times ages ago and they used loads of bags, a single item in a bag. Not sure what they do in Wales now.

granmaMary Fri 07-Feb-14 17:10:46

I am used to taking none plastic bags to the supermarket as we lived in Spain for 10 years. A couple of years ago Spain started charging for plastic bags in supermarkets. My question is what will the supermarkets in England do when delivering internet shopping, as they use lots of plastic bags for the delivery.

margaretm74 Fri 07-Feb-14 16:11:49

Yes, Modbury were in the forefront - well done that town!

DH thinks Waitrose bags are the best for the weekly shop, they have a firm base and sides and the handles drop over the side so that they are easy to fill, sturdy and rectangular so they stack in the trolley and car easily. I carry cotton or fabric ones in my handbag.

I am English, live in Wales and cannot understand why they are making such a hooha about it all.

Atqui Fri 07-Feb-14 15:59:23

Traders in the small town of modbury in Devon have banned plastic bags in their shops. you can't even buy one!!

annodomini Fri 07-Feb-14 09:52:18

I love my little wheelie bag, a bright, colourful one, bought from Lakeland. If I'm in the car, I have a collection of hemp bags and string bags. If a charge on plastic bags works in Ireland and Wales - and M&S - why all the angst about levying it in England?

janerowena Fri 07-Feb-14 08:56:05

We have a large collection of cloth bags, mainly collected abroad. I gave some to Son when he started uni and he keeps them in his rucksack for shopping on the way home.

The big supermarkets in France do wonderful sturdy large colourful trolley bags, brilliant for taking stuff to the beach.

Aka Fri 07-Feb-14 08:03:00

I love my trolley bag too. I trundle it to the shops and back (about 1.5 miles) on days I don't have the GC and it's a great way of getting exercise and doing the shopping at the same time. Supermarkets here give 'green points' for using your own bags or reusing plastic bags, but I had to have a battle with Sainsbury's to get my points for my trolley bag.
No logic in that is there hmm
Think these supermarkets only pay lip service to green issues when they are forced into it either by legislation or public pressure.

FlicketyB Fri 07-Feb-14 07:11:58

Supermarkets in France stopped giving out bags about 10 years ago.

I have always hated the clutter of plastic bags and so I have tried to avoid them for nearly 40 years. I have big trolley bags that I take out for my weekly shop and I have a plethora of cloth bags I have been given over the years. I keep one rolled up in my handbag. Several tucked into the back seat pockets in the car and one hanging on the front door handle for DH to take when he walks down to the village shop.

I sometimes watch people packing goods into bags at the supermarket and they obviously have hang ups about different types of foo touching anything else, so a packet of tea will be carefully put in a bag of its own, or a tin of beans, as if they might contaminate each other. With some fresh food that is understandable, but I put everything in my big trolley bag every week without damage or cross contamination. I do not buy meat or fish in the supermarket but I can understand people wanting these in separate bags

margaretm74 Thu 06-Feb-14 17:34:38

I am always surprised when we shop in England at the liberal abundance of bags given away. We save them up for when we give away apples from our tree - hoping they get properly disposed of afterwards of course.

margaretm74 Thu 06-Feb-14 17:32:11

Strange, really, plastic bags are discouraged in Wales, but our council changed from a recycling box to giving us plastic bags for waste to be recycled, and another for rubbish to go to the dump.

Rosannie Thu 06-Feb-14 17:00:13

Asda merrily give as many bags as you need without a care. I take my own bags so I'm not deluged by plastic when I get the big shop home. Any bags that do come home are used as bin liners. I agree with charging for bags, I've seen folks in M&S using everything available to avoid paying for a bag!

margaretm74 Thu 06-Feb-14 16:40:07

So why is there so much fuss in the media about introducing it in England - and why so slow in the implementation. It started well in Modbury, Devon, I suppose now the politicians have taken charge it will take for ever.

Yes, I always despair at how bad the Australians are at recycling, at least where we visit. I suppose it is difficult where the population is widespread, not sure about the big cities. I think it is better than in rural areas. But we need a Worldwide campaign!!

janthea Thu 06-Feb-14 16:11:01

I always have my grocery shopping bags in the back of the car and I have a little M&S bags that folds up into a pocket which I keep in my handbag.

I can't see the problem with charging for bags. It may make people think about the environment.

JessM Thu 06-Feb-14 16:06:30

Well that is not going to change in Australia at the moment with the Abbot government taking a kind of anti- environment stance. Cant remember where but was reading about it yesterday.

Agus Thu 06-Feb-14 13:48:40

Exactly m74

margaretm74 Thu 06-Feb-14 13:35:46

Hope they don't do that in Wales if it ain't broke don't fix it?

Agus Thu 06-Feb-14 13:34:11

Just heard on the news, the 5p charge system is working so well in Northern Ireland it is possible the charge will be raised to 10p! Why, if it's already working well?

margaretm74 Thu 06-Feb-14 13:03:12

DD1&2 are in Australia and Coles and Woolworths always pack for you you in plastic bags. Target (similar to BHS) use the ones made of potato starch.

I think we are ahead of Australia with recycling, but can't understand the resistance in England to the introduction of the levy - it is supposed to be a deterrent and an encouragement to use your own, not another tax!