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Pessimists die younger

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thatbags Thu 17-Nov-16 08:08:29

According to a Finnish study, pessimistic people have a raised risk of coronary heart disease, about 120% more likely to die of it even after other risk factors were taken into account.

Only one study, but...

Nanna58 Fri 18-Nov-16 20:18:36

When ipointed this study out to my pessimistic DH he said " I always felt I'd die young" I rest my case!!!

Nelliemoser Fri 18-Nov-16 19:03:00

My glass has a big hole in the bottom.

Ana Fri 18-Nov-16 16:24:36

Unless you were born on 29th February, of course! grin

DaphneBroon Fri 18-Nov-16 16:18:35

However it is a proven scientific fact that people who have more birthdays live longer.
grin

goldengirl Fri 18-Nov-16 15:15:14

There's no hope for me then [sad[

Jane10 Fri 18-Nov-16 12:45:22

They expect to of course!

durhamjen Fri 18-Nov-16 12:28:53

Perhaps pessimists don't mind dying younger.

Jane10 Fri 18-Nov-16 06:12:44

Ah but real pessimists can come up with potential problems that you cheery types couldn't imagine! All this glass half full/half empty stuff only suits you lucky types who have glasses in the first place. Its not worth my while having a glass -I'd only break it.
grin

grannyactivist Fri 18-Nov-16 01:09:15

I agree with bags - I would describe myself as an optimistic realist. I like to be prepared, as much as I can, and so I tend to have 'planned responses' in mind for various things, but then I mostly just get on and hope for the best outcome.

Shizam Thu 17-Nov-16 20:44:54

As John Cleese said in Clockwise: it's not the despair, I can cope with the despair. It's the hope I can't stand.

NameChange2016 Thu 17-Nov-16 19:29:06

My granny was a pessimist (everything was ALWAYS greener on the other side) She lived to be 94. My mother (who was an eternal optimist despite a horrendous first marriage and many years of fighting cancer) died at 70.

CrazyDaisy Thu 17-Nov-16 17:39:13

Remember the song "Always Look on the Bright side of Life"? grin

thatbags Thu 17-Nov-16 17:28:22

One can plan ahead, jane10, without being a pessimist. Being realistic about things that can go wrong, and being prepared for the most obvious ones, isn't the same as pessimism.

thatbags Thu 17-Nov-16 17:26:14

here it is, dj:

Always look on the bright side of life: the alternative may be not looking at any side of life at all. Pessimists are about twice as likely to die of heart disease as people who take a more balanced view, scientists have discovered.

Psychiatrists at the Paijat-Hame Central Hospital in Finland followed 2,267 patients aged between 52 and 76 for 11 years. At the start all the participants were asked how much they agreed with statements such as “If something can go wrong for me, it will”, as well as more upbeat mottoes.

By the end of the study, 121 patients had died from coronary heart disease (CHD). Those who died and the survivors had scored roughly the same for optimism, but those who had died of CHD were much more pessimistic than those who survived. The pessimists were about 120 per cent more likely to die of the disease even after other risk factors were taken into account.

Writing in BMC Public Health, the researchers said it could be that people who expected the worst were less likely to make efforts to improve their health.

durhamjen Thu 17-Nov-16 17:23:20

What does that say about Theresa May, Jane?

Greyduster Thu 17-Nov-16 17:15:45

Oh so thats what you're supposed to do! Thanks Jane 10 grin.

Jane10 Thu 17-Nov-16 17:04:30

I'd read that its intelligent to worry as it meant that worriers were more prepared when/if the worst happened. They tend to have worked out a plan B and C!

durhamjen Thu 17-Nov-16 17:01:55

My mother -in-law is the most pessimistic person I know. She's still being pessimistic at 94.
Link's behind a paywall, bags.

Elegran Thu 17-Nov-16 15:52:41

I have heard an extra Beatitude quoted, "Blessed is he who expecteth nothing, for he will not be disappointed"

Gaggi3 Thu 17-Nov-16 15:14:48

I had a friend whose MiL, when asked how she was, replied, "All but dead." She lived to her 90's.

gillybob Thu 17-Nov-16 14:06:18

I have a horrible way of thinking that good and bad always balances itself out, which makes me worry when the occasional good thing does happen, for the fear of what bad thing might be lurking around the corner. I know I am screwed up.

annan Thu 17-Nov-16 13:58:57

That sounds right: stress and worry are known to suppress the immune system and I suppose pessimistic people worry more.

Luckygirl Thu 17-Nov-16 12:22:36

But I read an article recently that said that pessimistic people suffer less from depression because they are seldom disappointed! Swings and roundabouts eh!

Jane10 Thu 17-Nov-16 12:07:22

Pessimists may die younger but with the satisfaction of knowing that they were right all along! 'I told you I was ill!' (Spike Milligan)

gillybob Thu 17-Nov-16 12:05:58

My glass never had anything in it in the first place !