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Stopping the waste first

(37 Posts)
GagaJo Wed 20-Oct-21 11:27:52

Totally agree. I try to avoid as much plastic as possible when I shop but it's SO hard. EVERYTHING has bl**dy plastic on it. And as for homewares etc, it is hard too to find non plastic stuff. What is wrong with a wooden spoon etc, for goodness sake?

25Avalon Wed 20-Oct-21 11:04:02

It’s called relative deprivation Peasblossom. When all the other kids are getting so many toys etc if you don’t get the same for yours they are deprived. However, when you look at the Owen Children on ou Yorkshire Farm it brings home what a nice bunch of kids they are without all the toys etc.

Peasblossom Wed 20-Oct-21 10:32:09

Well, I can’t help thinking that saying no to to children’s expectations when shopping (and otherwise) ma get be a good place to start. Most of this plastic rubbish is aimed at children and its adults that buy it, along with mountain of. stuffed toys.

Come on, how many of you have bought a little (unnecessary) present for the grandchildren?

MerylStreep Wed 20-Oct-21 10:31:20

Obviously that should be ingesting ?

MerylStreep Wed 20-Oct-21 10:29:03

How long will it be before it’s proven that somebody has a serious condition through injecting plastic.

www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/article/you-eat-thousands-of-bits-of-plastic-every-year

Tizliz Wed 20-Oct-21 10:21:03

I have said this in several posts. We all have too many gadgets - this includes me - we are all getting to materialistic. Must have the latest phone, a new car etc. We need to think about these things. And we will save money as well. I am not very good about putting my thoughts down in writing, but sometimes I think that a lot of us feel we are banging our heads on a brick wall.

25Avalon Wed 20-Oct-21 10:04:11

Think back 60 years. We had dusters, dish cloths, floor cloths, nappies, handkerchiefs, etc all of which were washable and reusable. Now it’s all disposables with their cost to the environment. So many things we are wasteful on when we only have one earth, although according to William Shatner we are exploring space to move manufacturing there. That is if there is room amongst all the junk man has left floating around up there. Modern man does not live in harmony with the world whereas early man who we like to call primitive did.

Germanshepherdsmum Wed 20-Oct-21 10:02:15

I agree with you Alegrias. But so long as this rubbish is sold it will be produced. Most of the Hallowe’en etc ‘novelty’ stuff comes from China or Taiwan I suspect so in addition to the huge amount of plastic there is the huge distance it has travelled. The only answer can be to refuse to buy it, which might be difficult if you take a child too young to understand the problem when you go shopping. And to refuse to buy any goods with unnecessary packaging. This is where the traditional greengrocer or market stall and the butcher and fishmonger come into their own. We need to vote with our feet. Not always easy I know especially if you have little time.
As regards shop lights being on all night, this is to deter thieves and may possibly be an insurance requirement. Street lights are turned off after midnight in some areas, which has raised safety concerns and is not in my opinion something to be encouraged.

Alegrias1 Wed 20-Oct-21 09:49:45

Its not about stopping the waste first, its about stopping the waste as well.

The scale of this is bigger that most of us realise.

Mogsmaw Wed 20-Oct-21 09:46:40

I agree wholeheartedly with everything you say, except the streetlights. Women feel venerable enough without giving councils license to switch off all the light.
We would probably be told to just stay in after a certain time if we didn’t like it. A defecto curfew.

EkwaNimitee Wed 20-Oct-21 09:45:49

You are so right Scones, I've been of this opinion for years. Of course we need to produce this stuff to keep our ever increasing population in work!

Scones Wed 20-Oct-21 09:37:22

Am I alone in thinking that a good way to start protecting the Earth is to stop producing and using so much useless junk?

All this talk of air source heat pumps and electric cars when every year we churn out and use millions of tons of plastic rubbish. I'm thinking of all the disposable and 'novelty' stuff for Christmas, Halloween, Easter. My local shops are currently packed with orange plastic buckets, costumes and 'stocking fillers'....most of which is absolute cr@p and will go straight in the bin.

Also, all the shops with automatic doors opening all day and the heating on, office and shop lighting left on all night. Street lighting that is left on all night in quiet country and suburban areas when nobody is ever around. Such a waste!

Would it not be simpler and better to stop/reduce the production of all of this unnecessary stuff?