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Really cold day today and wind and solar are able to provide only 8% of the total power we are using.

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Lathyrus3 Sun 19-Jan-25 18:22:59

fancythat

Sounds like we should have gone hydro in that case.

Why didnt we?

There’s nowhere really in the UK that has the water and the fall to generate that kind of power (apart from a couple of small stations).

Also 90% of the power Norway needs is much, much less than we need. Only 5.5 million people to supply!

OldFrill Sun 19-Jan-25 18:08:37

Gingster

Why have we never used the sea? wave power? It’s always there.

It's far more expensive than the alternatives, but l think the Fins may be coming to help us. I also like whales so much l think we should leave their habitat alone. Of course there's no "proof' wave power causes whales to strand but also there's no "proof" it doesn't.

David49 Sun 19-Jan-25 17:01:41

Electricity cannot be stored in large quantities so it’s got to be gas, storage has always been neglected, it up to the government to fund the provision of that.

The cheapest energy is nuclear once it’s built running cost is low, the energy used in construction is recovered very quickly. France has a high dependency and runs most of our nuclear power as a bonus.

Gingster Sun 19-Jan-25 16:59:51

Why have we never used the sea? wave power? It’s always there.

GrannyGravy13 Sun 19-Jan-25 16:56:36

Norway has over 900 Hydro-electric plants providing just over 90% of the countries power.

They have a totally different landscape to the UK, many of these plants are in the Fjords.

The UK has only got the sea for hydro power really, and it’s a busy with a. multitude of shipping lanes.

OldFrill Sun 19-Jan-25 16:48:50

Ilovecheese

We need to find better ways of storing energy.
If we want nuclear power we should put our money where our mouth is and build them ourselves, not pay for a foreign company to build them, who will then rip us off for generations to come.

They (foreign owned companies) are building huge battery storage areas in Scotland. This one's on a coal mine (what could possibly go wrong?) which is preferable to residential areas (last one by a housing estate that caught fire face off horrendous fumes)
No doubt they'll be all over the country, that's green energy after all.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5yd18q248jo.amp

fancythat Sun 19-Jan-25 16:47:38

Sounds like we should have gone hydro in that case.

Why didnt we?

Whitewavemark2 Sun 19-Jan-25 16:22:02

Renewables give on average 40% of our total energy use. That is almost entirely wind and solar.

In contrast Norway gets nearly 99%of its energy from renewables. It has recently gone all electric. However their energy is largely from hydro, which I assume is more dependable than either solar or wind.

I wouldn’t be so quick at dismissing renewables, but I think nuclear must always be seen as a fall back unless technology can provide the means for it to be unnecessary.

Ilovecheese Sun 19-Jan-25 15:46:33

We need to find better ways of storing energy.
If we want nuclear power we should put our money where our mouth is and build them ourselves, not pay for a foreign company to build them, who will then rip us off for generations to come.

Barleyfields Sun 19-Jan-25 15:44:57

I couldn’t agree more, but try telling Milliband that.

M0nica Sun 19-Jan-25 15:27:25

Getting to net zero by 2030 is cloud cuckoo land. Building lots more wind turbines and solar farms will not help. If the wind is not blowing or the sun shining, you do not get any power, no matter how many turbines we have.

We have always been looking to fusion as the answer to our prayers, but while tiny steps towards it are being taken, for the last 70 years it has always been 20 years away, and still remains so.

The only alternatie is to build more nuclear power stations, not the huge behemoths of yesterday, but small package units like those supplied www.rolls-royce.com/investors/capital-markets-day/small-modular-reactors.aspx

I am well aware of all the concerns about nuclear power, but when you look at the damage clinate chanage is causing to the world. The wild fires in California with 12,000 houses destroyed, the floods in Europe and all over the world. The devastating effects of hurricaanes and sea height rises on small island nations. The world's average temperature has already risen by over 1.5 degrees, considered breaking point. The downsides of nuclear power pale into insignificance.

Fusion will come, and solve most of the world's energy problems, but our current refusal to install nuclear fission power station seems to me to be the equivalent to someone bleeding to death refusing a blood donation because there is a 1% chance the blood might be contaminated,