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We shouldn't eat honey!

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Chestnut Tue 31-Mar-26 15:43:04

Well I never knew this, but eating honey actually harms the eco system.

Google confirms it:
"Consuming honey, particularly commercially produced honey, can contribute to the decline of wild bee populations, largely because the honey industry drives a high demand for managed honey bees (Apis mellifera), which directly compete with wild, native bees for resources. While many people keep bees to "save the bees," conservation scientists argue that this often harms biodiversity because honey bees are agricultural livestock, not endangered wildlife."

There are over 270 species of bee in the UK and 24 types of bumble bee and they are endangered. So anyone who loves wild bees should try to save them rather than eating commercially produced honey.

Just to add, there is a programme on BBC iPlayer called 'My Garden of a Thousand Bees' which is absolutely amazing and deserves an award. Start watching and you won't be able to stop.

Maremia Wed 01-Apr-26 11:16:22

People have known about the healing properties of honey for a long time.
Great for sore throats.

dotpocka Wed 01-Apr-26 11:00:33

no it isnt
www.verywellhealth.com/honey-vs-sugar-11825483

Basgetti Wed 01-Apr-26 10:58:40

Yes but it has positive properties that refined sugar does not have.

Grantanow Wed 01-Apr-26 10:45:36

Isn't honey almost pure sugar?

twiglet77 Wed 01-Apr-26 10:40:02

I buy local honey (from a family in the next village). The only supermarket honey I’ve bought in the last decade or so is single-apiary honey from M&S.

mum2three Wed 01-Apr-26 10:22:03

Piffle! Destroying the countryside is what is harming the eco system. Schools need to teach about how nature works. I don't think this government understands how vital plants and trees are. Honey was used before we discovered sugar, it's a perfectly natural food.

Chestnut Wed 01-Apr-26 10:16:41

Here's more information about native bees, and you can even get a Bee Saver Kit.
Friends of the Earth The Bee Cause

Chestnut Wed 01-Apr-26 10:09:54

Can I just bring up again the problems our wild native bees are having as mentioned in the OP.

I also found the following:
Native wild bees in the UK are in severe decline, with 35 bee species under threat of extinction and 13 species already lost. Around one-third of pollinator species have declined since 1980, with about a quarter of British wild bees showing long-term decline due to habitat loss, intensive farming, and pesticides.

So can you do anything to help our native bees? If you watch the programme My Garden of a Thousand Bees you'll see a magical place full of wild flowers and pieces of wood with holes (they love holes of course). It looks very much like I imagined a fairy garden as a child.

I just hope anyone with a garden can recreate that, even if just in a tiny corner of their garden.

vegansrock Wed 01-Apr-26 02:42:59

Maple syrup is a good substitute for honey in lots of recipes.

nanna8 Tue 31-Mar-26 23:35:40

Horrible stuff with a yucky flavour but not too bad if you mix it with soy sauce.

SueDonim Tue 31-Mar-26 23:21:36

The honey I’m using currently comes from beehives that sit on the Scottish mountainside all summer. When I open the jar, the scent of a Scottish hillside covered in gorse and heather comes flooding out - it’s glorious. I don’t use much honey, a jar a year at best, unless I bake with it. The beekeepers had 55kilos of honey last year - they were giving it to all and sundry!

Allira Tue 31-Mar-26 22:49:44

I'm sure we don't need sugar and sweet things.

Unfortunately, I like them, but don't take sugar in tea or coffee.

Catterygirl Tue 31-Mar-26 22:48:34

Allira, I don’t eat fruits unfortunately as they set off IBS but I eat a lemon every day as they don’t affect me negatively. I do eat every kind of vegetable and love them all.

Basgetti Tue 31-Mar-26 22:48:22

Allsorts

I won't buy cheap honey, it's now being imported from China and sold for less than a pound a jar by a certain supermarket known for its cheap prices. I buy mine from a local supplier, as I have allergies and just have a little each day, a jar that costs me 10.00 lasts me for ages. Won't buy cheap meat either, you can imagine how animals are treated to produce it, I would rather eat less meat and bulk it out with lentils or mixed beans or go veggie. I look at trolleys full of processed food and boxes of cakes and crisps, such a waste of money that could be spent on good food.

TK Maxx often has lovely, organic honeys from Greece and Italy.

Allsorts Tue 31-Mar-26 22:45:10

I won't buy cheap honey, it's now being imported from China and sold for less than a pound a jar by a certain supermarket known for its cheap prices. I buy mine from a local supplier, as I have allergies and just have a little each day, a jar that costs me 10.00 lasts me for ages. Won't buy cheap meat either, you can imagine how animals are treated to produce it, I would rather eat less meat and bulk it out with lentils or mixed beans or go veggie. I look at trolleys full of processed food and boxes of cakes and crisps, such a waste of money that could be spent on good food.

Basgetti Tue 31-Mar-26 22:20:20

Don’t like honey, happy to leave it to the bees.

Unfortunately my mum, a lifelong, avid nature lover, has developed an incredibly sweet tooth as her dementia has progressed, 4 spoonfuls in every cup of tea or coffee. Don’t think I’ll be able to dissuade her 🥺

Allira Tue 31-Mar-26 22:19:23

but my family worry because I rarely eat anything sweet

I don't think we need sugar or sweet foods and drinks.
You are probably getting all the sugars you need from fruits etc.

I'll take a bet your teeth are better than most people's of your age!

Catterygirl Tue 31-Mar-26 22:14:50

I really don’t like honey but my family worry because I rarely eat anything sweet. My husband buys me very expensive honey from the Yemen and I have to say that it’s bearable with some Greek yoghurt but would much prefer a curry or chilli con carne.
My mum also worried about my lack of eating sugar. We lived in Trinidad for a while and went through the sugar cane fields. A beautiful sight and for me it’s a vegetable not something to dismiss.
Today I ate a Gu coffee caramel pudding but gave up after about four mouthful. It had no sugar and was tasteless.
My favourite pudding is golden syrup sponge and because I never eat sugar I smother it with golden syrup. When I go sweet I go really sweet.
Yemen honey is recommended by me if you’re a fan.

Allira Tue 31-Mar-26 22:07:28

I like to buy local honey and, if anyone suffers from hayfever, it will, anecdotally, help alleviate symptoms.

Ladyleftfieldlover Tue 31-Mar-26 21:55:52

OH is a beekeeper and sells his honey locally. It is delicious.

DamaskRose Tue 31-Mar-26 21:50:48

I live in a fairly rural area where there are several beekeepers to choose from. There is a discernible difference in taste and consistency from keeper to keeper even in a smallish area. I stir a little into Greek yogurt. I know it’s expensive but much better than supermarket “honey”.

Esmay Tue 31-Mar-26 21:33:06

I have my source of locally produced honey .
It's an important part of my diet.

I'm getting more fussy with my diet - I can't tolerate some foods anymore and other foods make me nauseated .
I don't want to end up like my mother,who was a nightmare to feed .

Oreo Tue 31-Mar-26 21:05:58

Clover honey and Acacia honey are just delicious 😋

25Avalon Tue 31-Mar-26 20:51:30

I only buy local honey not commercially produced ones. I read that a lot of supermarket so called honeys are made in China from liquified sugar - yuck!

MaizieD Tue 31-Mar-26 20:40:27

Sorry, forgot to post the link

www.theguardian.com/food/2024/nov/09/nine-in-ten-honey-samples-from-uk-retailers-fail-authenticity-test