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GrannyTwice Wed 22-Apr-15 09:23:34

There are some situations where as well as deleting a post I think HQ should do more than just refer to its own guidelines but put in more of explanation. This is especially so as the site has such light touch real time moderation. The potentially libellous comment about ET was one issue but much worse was the post on the thread about the two girls being locked in their bedroom. The post that was deleted gave enough information for the family to be identified especially as we all know so much about the poster in RL including her name. This was an irresponsible post which potentially put the well being of two already vulnerable children at risk and I think HQ should have said something on the thread if only to remind us that GN is a completely open forum to which anyone has access. Most of us don't know each other in RL and even what we think we know each other on here , there will in some cases be a fabrication - we've had some dodgy posters in the past and they were the ones that were obviously dodgy. I know I'll get flamed for ths but really feel it's important - in RL much of my work is predicated on the need for confidentiality so it's in my DNA and I'm very aware of the dangers of gossipy comments made in inappropriate situations. Even if we don't have a professional duty to respect confidentiality, we all have a moral duty, especially in the case of vulnerable children. The gossipy, outrageous behaviour of the TA should have been reported IMO for example rather than broadcast on GN. We shouldn't be indulging in titilating gossip in situations like this - there's plenty of other opportunities

pompa Wed 22-Apr-15 21:18:40

I can't see any point in starting an argument on a thread, let the moderators decide.

FYI, apart from reporting adverts etc, I have only ever reported one post, which was a direct personal attack - the post was removed. So don't get things out of proportion.

soontobe Wed 22-Apr-15 21:17:46

Sometimes, posters get "wounded" Soutra. Or very upset. Or both. And appreciate some support, or help, or both.
And yes, she can say that I am wrong too!

rosequartz Wed 22-Apr-15 21:16:37

Are you a hippy soon ?grin
Peace and love etc

Soutra Wed 22-Apr-15 21:14:58

I think members are perfectly able to simply speak for themselves. If that is what POGS is indicating, she should say so and it is not up to anybody else to second guess what she does or does not want.

soontobe Wed 22-Apr-15 21:12:13

I could be wrong, but I think that POGS wants her name to be cleared.
Has that happened now?
So that we can all move on?

Gransnet did say that they are happy to look into explaining why posts have gone.

<peace>?

absent Wed 22-Apr-15 21:11:47

smile

rosesarered Wed 22-Apr-15 21:10:41

You also sound quite bombastic and self important yourself judging by your last two posts.

rosesarered Wed 22-Apr-15 21:09:15

Noted Absent, I shall leave you out of it.However GT has insulted quite a few people on Gnet , luckily for you, not you it seems.

absent Wed 22-Apr-15 21:05:41

rosesarered ^GrannyTwice says that she is somewhat nicer in RL than here in the forum,
Hmmm, why do we all doubt that?^

I really dislike other posters speaking on my behalf but if you have canvassed the thousands of other Gransnet members, please change your post to:

^GrannyTwice says that she is somewhat nicer in RL than here in the forum,
Hmmm, why do we all – with the exception of absent – doubt that?^

absent Wed 22-Apr-15 21:01:05

Goodness, this seems to be getting a bit self-important and bombastic. It's Gransnet, not a well-funded newspaper or broadcaster with a team of lawyers who can check not only the content but also the wording of comments about a contentious issue. Libel law is such that the latter is just as important as the former. It is surely reasonable to delete a post that is potentially libellous even if it later transpires that it wasn't libellous.

POGS You seem to be unaware that sometimes a number of members will report the same post. You also seem to be unaware that posts are not automatically deleted just because someone has reported them. The idea that, say, half a dozen people, plus the Gransnet moderators, plus the author of the reported post should discuss the legal ramifications in detail when, almost certainly, none of them has any formal qualifications for doing so is laughable.

As for other posters wondering why a post has been deleted, does it really matter? In the case of very busy threads, many will have read the post before deletion and are likely to be aware of the reason. In other cases, regular posters will know that it's just Thingy having one of her regular hissy fits or Whatnot having one of her regular bad tempers. Equally it might be because Doo-dah has been having one of her frequent games of baiting Whatsername until Whatsername gets so cross she posts something abusive about Doo-dah which is then deleted. And so on…

rosesarered Wed 22-Apr-15 20:59:54

Well said Pompa.

pompa Wed 22-Apr-15 20:56:58

I think it perfectly reasonable for anyone to report a post they think is breaking the rules. If there is a post I think breaks the rules and I find objectionable I will report it. What I won't do is publicly castigate the poster or even announce that I have reported it, it is then up to the moderators to adjudicate. Posting that you are reporting, just causes bad feeling for no purpose.
I have occasional become incensed by a post and said so in the thread, but have never, so far, considered those instances to be report worthy as they don't break the rules, just my patience.

rosesarered Wed 22-Apr-15 20:54:22

GrannyTwice says that she is somewhat nicer in RL than here in the forum,
Hmmm, why do we all doubt that?

Ana Wed 22-Apr-15 20:48:30

It isn't acceptable rose, but some posters are very clever at disguising their personal attacks as generalisations or 'jokey comments'.

rosequartz Wed 22-Apr-15 20:42:41

Yes, they are very good, pompa but then I have no experience of other sites.

I suppose if I see a post that could be potentially libellous I assume that Gransnet will keep an eye on things and delete it or the poster will think again and ask for it to be deleted.
But is it up to other posters to decide which other Gransnetters' posts are potentially libellous or offensive and report those posts? Is it between the poster and GN? Or would it be more polite to pm the poster and suggest it could potentially cause trouble and perhaps they may like to think about withdrawing it?

I have been castigated by one particular poster several times but let it stand as she just makes herself sound what she herself would term as 'stupid' (her expression, not mine). I would not call another poster stupid, ridiculous, uneducated or shallow or other rude and offensive terms, but apparently that is acceptable.

pompa Wed 22-Apr-15 20:17:14

I have used many different forums on the internet. I find the moderators on GN to be some of the best. They rarely intervene unless asked, but keep a close eye on all posts. The forum rules are very reasonable. The report button is there to be used by any GNer not happy about a post, but that only brings it to the attention of the moderators, they will only take action if the rules are breached, so no one will be affected by a report unless they are outside the rules. (If the rules don't cover the issue, the moderators are at liberty to rule.)

POGS Wed 22-Apr-15 20:13:34

Granny Twice

If I answered that post I would definitely have a post deleted.

Why would you say 'Clearly GNHQ are clearly l.a.s then' ?

rosequartz Wed 22-Apr-15 20:10:12

Well, you are very good at calling people names, GrannyTwice.

You are free as you like to be the class sneak.

GrannyTwice Wed 22-Apr-15 20:08:16

Don't be ridiculous rose - we are free to report and then it's up to HQ - if they delete for no reason they are stupid

POGS Wed 22-Apr-15 20:06:44

What do you mean by that remark Granny Twice?

GrannyTwice Wed 22-Apr-15 20:06:14

Clearly HQ are liars then as that's what they said - guidelines etc. Anyway, guess you wont be repeating the point? Why not try proper debate as opposed to ill founded personal attacks?

rosequartz Wed 22-Apr-15 20:04:22

It makes one wonder just who is 'policing' this site.
GN or other Gransnetters, some of whom have no compunction in sailing close to the wind when saying things about other posters?

GrannyTwice Wed 22-Apr-15 20:03:50

Hummmm - wonder why then - do tell!!!

POGS Wed 22-Apr-15 19:59:54

Jess M

I neither had my wrist slapped, nor made a faux pas.

I received courteous responses from GNHQ and the deleted post did not contravene forum guidelines and certainly not, as Granny Twice has repeatedly charged me with, gave cause for any reason to be deemed as libellous.

Anne58 Wed 22-Apr-15 18:58:34

As said elsewhere, I did get an email from HQ, very kindly worded and perfectly reasonable. I have no problem with that at all. On the other hand................hmm smile