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GrannyTwice Wed 22-Apr-15 09:23:34

There are some situations where as well as deleting a post I think HQ should do more than just refer to its own guidelines but put in more of explanation. This is especially so as the site has such light touch real time moderation. The potentially libellous comment about ET was one issue but much worse was the post on the thread about the two girls being locked in their bedroom. The post that was deleted gave enough information for the family to be identified especially as we all know so much about the poster in RL including her name. This was an irresponsible post which potentially put the well being of two already vulnerable children at risk and I think HQ should have said something on the thread if only to remind us that GN is a completely open forum to which anyone has access. Most of us don't know each other in RL and even what we think we know each other on here , there will in some cases be a fabrication - we've had some dodgy posters in the past and they were the ones that were obviously dodgy. I know I'll get flamed for ths but really feel it's important - in RL much of my work is predicated on the need for confidentiality so it's in my DNA and I'm very aware of the dangers of gossipy comments made in inappropriate situations. Even if we don't have a professional duty to respect confidentiality, we all have a moral duty, especially in the case of vulnerable children. The gossipy, outrageous behaviour of the TA should have been reported IMO for example rather than broadcast on GN. We shouldn't be indulging in titilating gossip in situations like this - there's plenty of other opportunities

JessM Wed 22-Apr-15 18:34:07

Goodness sake. There are very reasonable rules on this site (although they are a little difficult to track down) www.gransnet.com/info/netiquette
The site is lightly moderated.
If you feel uneasy about a post, report it and let the moderators take a look. (not worth agonising - that is the moderators job)
And then treat them with some respect and don't expect them to explain the ins and outs of what has happened to all and sundry.
If you get a post deleted and your wrist gently slapped (and its happened to lots of us) shrug, learn something if appropriate, and move on.
If you think you have made a faux pas or a post you have just made makes you feel uneasy, report it yourself and ask for its deletion.
Remember anyone in the world can see your posts, including your friends, relatives and other people who may identify you.
Nobody makes you belong to this site.
What more is there?

Anne58 Wed 22-Apr-15 17:33:11

especially as we all know so much about the poster in RL including her name

So, GrannyTwice, you reckon you know so much about me?

magpie123 Wed 22-Apr-15 17:28:37

GrannyTwice if you are not bothered about other gransnetters being sued for libel why are you so quick with the Report Button. Gransnet is hardly the BBC News or even dare I say The Daily Mail, its highly unlikely ET, NC, or whoever would even know about the posts. What's your problem.

rosequartz Wed 22-Apr-15 16:32:51

I remember mentioning in a post on another thread(s) that posters perhaps ought to be careful if a matter is sub judice and anything out on an open forum available for all to see could prejudice the outcome of a trial.
I think that was on a thread about a now convicted and famous paedophile.
No-one took much notice of me and all carried merrily on, so I am surprised that so much fuss is being made re the recently deleted post which, imo, sailed very close to the wind but did not name anyone and probably said no more than can be found elsewhere on the internet.

I think it is up to GN to decide and explain the reason for deleting a post, and for the original poster to ask for it to be withdrawn if they have a rethink.
I have reported spam posts but is it up to us to police the site because we disagree with something someone else has said? Presumably we are all grownup enough to decide what we wish to post and if, after reflection, we wish it to remain on there.

TriciaF Wed 22-Apr-15 15:58:31

I thought it was the owners of the forum who are sued, not the individual posters.
I could be wrong.

jinglbellsfrocks Wed 22-Apr-15 15:43:18

You know what their motto is - kerching!

jinglbellsfrocks Wed 22-Apr-15 15:42:07

POGS! You haven't let emails from GNHQ spoil your weekend have you? shock

Remember - don't let the buggers get you down. flowerscupcakewinesunshine

Soutra Wed 22-Apr-15 15:11:07

Oh, (bit slow on the uptake )you are saying that your post Being deleted was referred to by OP.

Right. All clear now.

Soutra Wed 22-Apr-15 15:08:46

Was that comment about Politics Forum, Conservative Manifesto etc in answer to my question , POGS which of your posts on this thread has/have been deleted?
If not, is it unreasonable to ask again for clarification?

POGS Wed 22-Apr-15 14:27:44

Granny Twice

As you yourself has just stated.

You don't give a damn about posters being sued for libel, fair enough it just proves that I have been too polite thus far.

You didn't even bother to find out the truth as to what was posted, which by the way I have had confirmed as not being libellous.

Having gone through a horrible weekend and copious e.mails with GNHQ to abide by due process I shall answer your crass comments on the Politics thread!

POGS Wed 22-Apr-15 14:18:56

I am gladdened to see there is an interest in my posts.

I refer you to The Politics Forum, Conservative Manifesto and my deleted post of Fri 17th April 11.27 and the 3 subsequent posts of 21.21. ....21.22.....21.24.

Again this point is being made on this thread inin/by the OP 09.23 in the 3rd sentence.

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'The potentially libellous comment about ET (Emily Thornberry) was one issue'.

Again on this thread 09.51.

Again on this thread at 10.26 the OP poster refers to the fact she has reported posts due to 'her belief' posts have been 'legally dubious'.

Any more queries please feel free to ask.

GrannyTwice Wed 22-Apr-15 14:15:45

actuslly whenever I've had a post deleted, I think it's nearly always been fair and a couple of times I've felt blush

GrannyTwice Wed 22-Apr-15 14:12:31

Message deleted by Gransnet for breaking our forum guidelines. Replies may also be deleted.

Soutra Wed 22-Apr-15 13:42:24

Hardly surprising. . . I thought the Lndon Marathon was on Sunday grin

jinglbellsfrocks Wed 22-Apr-15 13:41:15

Oh, I didn't get that far. confused now.

Soutra Wed 22-Apr-15 13:41:14

No it is the last line.

I am the deleted poster in question.... etc

jinglbellsfrocks Wed 22-Apr-15 13:38:42

OMG! Have I got to read all of that long post?!

Soutra Wed 22-Apr-15 13:37:04

I am the deleted poster on both this and another thread

Is what I read, so can't see how the first part of this applies to the past.

jinglbellsfrocks Wed 22-Apr-15 13:35:35

Pogs is talking in a general way. Based on happenings over the life of the forum. #getwiththepicture hmm

jinglbellsfrocks Wed 22-Apr-15 13:34:39

Ana - in the past! hmm

jinglbellsfrocks Wed 22-Apr-15 13:34:04

Oh, you're probably right. I just can't my head it all. confused

I prefer to let GNHQ know just what I think of them having deleted a post of mine. Usually in a good (ish) way. smile

Soutra Wed 22-Apr-15 13:33:03

AIB Dense, where "on this thread" one of your posts been deleted POGS?
I thought the deleted poster in question was phoenix but perhaps I am missing something, somewhere?

Ana Wed 22-Apr-15 13:30:27

You haven't had a post on this thread deleted, POGS...confused

POGS Wed 22-Apr-15 13:26:58

Jingle

Actually it is not a trivial point being made, lord knows you have in the past shown to be annoyed when your posts are deleted. You know what is like and it is a very uncomfortable position you are placed in by another anonymous person, especially when they are making very strong accusations of you making libellous comment, there is an irony in the word libellous when that happens.

There is a fair and valid reason behind reporting a post, to be polite I will say both on the part of the GN'er who reported it and GNHQ to 'protect' us from libel. That's polite enough I hope.

However when due process has been carried out between the deleted poster and GNHQ and the deleted post is verified as not being a case of being libellous it would stop the 'further rot', continuation of comment and continued allegation by GN'ers who are doing so without full receipt of that knowledge!

This problem of deleted posts rears it's ugly head time and again but what I am saying is there are reasonable solutions that I believe most would agree on that could dissipate the need for them. Both parties deserve GNHQ to provide full and comprehensive reasons of why the post was deleted, especially if it is found to be the case there never was a problem in the first place. Precaution is a good thing, not clearing a posters good name is a bad thing.

I am affirmed of my position as I am the deleted poster in question on both this and another thread.

Tegan Wed 22-Apr-15 12:55:10

Someone downloaded an article on another forum I go onto and the writer demanded that it be withdrawn immediately or she would sue [which we did along with grovelling unashamedly to her]. It was a bit of a wake up call I'm afraid sad.