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St Andrew's Day

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annodomini Tue 29-Nov-16 08:19:18

I bring this up ever year on November 30th - St Andrew's Day. You have symbols for the other home nations; we have countless Scots on Gransnet. Why are we left out? Couldn't we just have the Scottish saltire or even a thistle?

rubylady Thu 01-Dec-16 03:07:01

mcem I loved doing gay gordons at school, all Scottish dancing actually. It was one of the happiest times at secondary school for me. I loved wearing a kilt as a girl and cherished my kilt pin. Scotland is such a beautiful country, all who live there are very lucky indeed. smile

Granny23 Wed 30-Nov-16 20:27:10

Sorry it's a it late in the day.

Elegran Wed 30-Nov-16 11:29:40

Half a kilt would be worse, glass. Front half or back?

gillybob Wed 30-Nov-16 11:02:35

I was always told that the Scottish Cross was a multiplication sign representing the "multiplication" of the loaves and fishes brought to Jesus by Andrew the fisherman to be shared amongst the 5000 (feeding of the 5000).

I was also told that hand of St Andrew is supposed to stop witches from coming down your chimney, trisher. tbhmm

My half Scottish DH has announced that in order to embrace his "half Scottishness" he quite fancies some Haggis for supper. Boy am I relieved that he hadn't decided to wear a kilt.

annodomini Wed 30-Nov-16 10:33:09

In Scotland when I was young, we never made such a big thing of St Andrew's day as the Welsh and Irish made of their national days. At St Andrews University it wasn't a holiday for most of my time there - I think it changed just before I graduated. I'm glad there's more heed paid to it nowadays.
Greetings to fellow Scots especially the St Andreans among us.

trisher Wed 30-Nov-16 10:28:39

Does anyone know the story about the hand of St Andrew? There is a St Andrew's church in Newcastle (thanks to the Scottish occupation which we may want to recognise again at some point) and I was once told by someone that he linked it to 4 other churches in the area and the story of St Andrew's hand, but I can't remember the story (if I ever knew it).

J52 Wed 30-Nov-16 10:13:53

When I taught in Birmingham we always had St Andrew's day as a school holiday! The headteacher was Scottish and must have had the autonomy to make that decision.
I doubt that it happens now.

DaphneBroon Wed 30-Nov-16 09:58:04

Bring it on anniebach!!!<trembles>
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Anniebach Wed 30-Nov-16 09:53:19

Have a great St Andrews Day Scotland

From Wales

. See you at the Six Nations in Murrayfield , 25th February ?

mcem Wed 30-Nov-16 09:35:40

Greetings to fellow Scots and thanks to those who wish us well.
I loathe the ghastly hey Jimmy hat emoji and if GNHQ can't come up with something better I'd rather do without.
St Andrew's day is one of the few occasions I miss teaching. It was quite a sight to see 250+ children enjoying an enormous Gay Gordons around the playground!

J52 Wed 30-Nov-16 08:54:30

Happy St. Andrew's day to everyone marking the occasion!

DaphneBroon Wed 30-Nov-16 08:25:02

Here's tae us
Wha's like us?
Dam' few
An' they're a' deid!

And for annodomini, McEm, alieoxon and others I may not know
"Aien aristeuein" !
(ever to excel)

FarNorth Wed 30-Nov-16 03:15:35

sad

FarNorth Tue 29-Nov-16 22:22:11

As we edge closer to midnight and the actual start of St Andrew's Day, I breathlessly await the revelation of the national emblem emoji Gransnet has planned for us, to replace the obviously silly "See you, Jimmy" wig and bunnet effort that we have today.

Swanny Tue 29-Nov-16 17:26:05

Hmm Granny23. My reaction was 'Oh for heavens sake!' If that's how you think the world sees you, then it's a pity for you. This isn't about demeaning Scots. Yes the football Tartan Army image is not the best, but who started that? And Yes, if Gransnet has national emblem emojis for other UK Saints Days then there should be the same for Scotland.

And as for Scots colluding in a lack of respect by laughing at the 'deep-fried haggis under the kilt' style of humour, that really takes the biscuit. Have we become so politically correct now that we cannot laugh at ourselves? I don't hear those living in NW England complaining about a flat cap and ferret image, or the residents of a certain town in NE England being called monkey-hangers. (Was it a monkey mascot of the French ship or was it a small boy known as a powder-monkey?) I have known a man from Southern Ireland, who spent his working life as a labourer in London, tell the most outrageous non-PC jokes about his fellow countrymen and building sites.

There are several legends about how some of St Andrew's relics came to be in Scotland, one of which says St Rule, a Greek monk called Regulus, had a vision which told him to take the bones of St Andrew to the ends of the earth. Is that how you see Scotland? November 30th is believed to be the anniversary of his crucifixion. Have some respect for the fisherman who became Jesus' first disciple.

Granny23 Tue 29-Nov-16 17:18:45

I am neither Dour nor a Big Jessie. If someone says something funny then I will laugh like a chookie. I see nothing remotely funny in tired old stereotypes.

Jayh Tue 29-Nov-16 17:07:13

As a Scot I will never be reduced to anything. I don't collude with any of the daft stereotypes listed but I can take the piss out of them. The emoji is clearly not appropriate to celebrate a Saint but I am not offended. It made me laugh that it was offered.

J52 Tue 29-Nov-16 16:33:16

Everyone?

Anya Tue 29-Nov-16 15:16:18

Everyone knows that and that as a nation we can laugh at ourselves too.

Or even because of that knowledge....??

J52 Tue 29-Nov-16 15:00:48

Too true Granny23, many Scots were great inventors and contributed to making Britain a once great industrial nation.

Anya Tue 29-Nov-16 14:51:24

Come on Granny23, don't be such a dour Jessie.

Cherrytree59 Tue 29-Nov-16 13:59:23

Granny23. Yes I have every respect for my birth nation.
I'm not keen on the funny wee face with a tammie (emoji)
It does not have the same respect as that of the other Nations (emoji) flowers representing their national days (saint)
It is more of a cartoon.
That could be said to poke fun.

felice Tue 29-Nov-16 12:58:14

Granny23 well said.

Granny23 Tue 29-Nov-16 12:44:08

Scotland, a nation with much to be proud of, reduced again to Jimmy hats, deep fried whatever, something under kilts, the horror of haggis and shortbread tins. Fellow Scots - if you laugh at this - you are colluding - demeaning your own selves. Harry Lauder has been gone a long time. Have some respect please.

FarNorth Tue 29-Nov-16 11:51:32

It won't be long till next Burns Nicht, Swanny, so I hope you're getting another wee haggis fattened up for that, ken.