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OK, it's probably been said before, BUT..

(58 Posts)
phoenix Tue 11-Apr-17 20:21:41

Can we please "play nicely"?

Get heated, contentious, whatever on threads where it might be acceptable/appropriate, politics for example, or even if you are that way inclined, the best way to make Yorkshire pudding or trim your over grown bush (gardening thread, of course, or perhaps style & beauty?)

But PLEASE on other threads, either lighten up, or adopt the old attitude of if you can't say something nice, say nothing!

It is incredibly easy to ignore something that doesn't interest you, so why waste finger energy to post a derisive comment on another members post? Exceptions made for those focussed entirely on school shoes, of course.

Disagree with it by all means, challenge it, that's fine too, I'm sure we've all done that.

Thinking about it, we are bloody lucky to have the space and opportunity to communicate in this way, without too much censorship (ok, so who wants to be governed by Kim Jung Un (sp) ,any takers? Thought not.)

Unusual post for me, but sod it!

annsixty Wed 12-Apr-17 08:08:26

I think some posters take things too personally when others see no real offence.
I think that to me means they have a rather inflated idea of their own self importance.
This is not, repeat not, intended to point the finger at anyone personally at the current time, just an observation of things I have noticed throughout my time with GN.
Some would just say,lighten up, shrug it off and ignore the deliberately obnoxious posters. Like death and taxes they will always be with us.

NfkDumpling Wed 12-Apr-17 07:59:26

With you Phoenix. There's been several threads lately where nit picking nastiness has taken over from heated discussion. Even when the discussion ignores it and carries on two or three will continue to slag each other viciously. And when it happens on a light thread like yours....confused

Abonet Wed 12-Apr-17 07:57:50

Does ignoring always work on the internet? I dont think so.

thatbags Wed 12-Apr-17 07:46:27

I think I may have found the 'contentiousness' in question (after your last post, P). I think it could have been ignored, especially by someone with a 'prehistoric' association with Gransnet wink

thatbags Wed 12-Apr-17 07:33:41

What I dislike about threads like this is the mysteriousness. Oblique references are made to whatever the OP has seen as the problem. Most of us haven't a clue what the opening post is on about. Well, we have a vague idea, but we don't know what in particular occasioned the objection in the opening post. That's annoying.

Those of us who wish to start threads like this need, I suggest (and the suggestion is aimed at me too), to find a way of making our complaints unmysterious.

And then threads like this would get reported and deleted pronto. Hey! I think I'm onto something here grin

kittylester Wed 12-Apr-17 07:25:14

That wasn't the case here though Absent.

absent Wed 12-Apr-17 07:21:23

I am just waiting – but not with bated breath – for this thread, like all the many others on this subject in the past, to degenerate into a nasty sniping match. It always happens – but maybe this one will be the exception.

I agree that there is no excuse, let alone justification for being aggressively rude to another gransnetter but it does happen. What also happens is that some gransnetters occasionally complain that someone was aggressively rude to them when all they did was disagree with what was said in a post.

kittylester Wed 12-Apr-17 06:36:28

Elegran - good posts as usual.

phoenix Wed 12-Apr-17 01:11:08

Durham, just a bit of nonsense started on 9th, under "Ask a Gran", having deliberately avoided AIBU

durhamjen Wed 12-Apr-17 00:21:15

Which thread was that, then,phoenix?

phoenix Tue 11-Apr-17 23:53:01

Spot on Jalima, a recent thread was a good example of this, hence this one!

Hopehope Tue 11-Apr-17 23:47:06

Did I miss something? I didn't spot anything angry yet, perhaps I am just oblivious smile

Jalima1108 Tue 11-Apr-17 23:41:29

I agree with Ana. If we were all just 'nice' GN would soon finish.
I like it as it is and if some threads get heated then don't read them.
I don't think phoenix said that though Margaret
I read the OP as saying that some threads do get heated and contentious, that is to be expected on politics etc, but that others are supposed to be lighthearted, a bit of fun to brighten our day, and that sometimes someone may come on and start being rather contentious on those for no reason whatsoever.

Abonet Tue 11-Apr-17 23:18:07

There will always be some posters who regularly do personal sniping. They enjoy it - especially if they themselves think they were got at on some thread or other. Some posters have very long memories. And cant stand being patronised.

phoenix Tue 11-Apr-17 23:09:07

gillybob I have no problem with a difference of opinion, bring it on, in fact reading other people's people's opinion on here has given much food for thought and has on occasion made me totally re think some things, but personal sniping is another matter.

gillybob Tue 11-Apr-17 23:00:32

We are a giant melting pot of people. Why would we all think the same?

We are not robots. We are not all in the same financial situation. We do not live the same lives , some of us are retired, others are not, some have grandchildren, others might not, some support one political party, others support a different one and some none at all. We are Christians, non Christians, vegans, veggies, straight, gay or crikey knows (or cares) what's else.

Why would there not be a difference if opinion?

As long as we all respect each other. sunshine all around.

Penstemmon Tue 11-Apr-17 22:59:18

thatbags improvemnet on the tea or on the quality of debate/postings? grin

thatbags Tue 11-Apr-17 22:43:34

It has been said before a lot. It doesn't make a blind bit of difference so I wonder why it is said.

I like the bits about the vicar. Ouch! That could be painful!

And I rather like a cucumber sandwich once in a while though I can, and do, go years without eating cucumber. The best I ever ate was some from my neighbour's greenhouse. I was watering stuff while she was away and she said help yourself. That sort of cucumber I would eat more often but most of the stuff from shops is tasteless.

Has anyone tried coconut oil or coconut cream in green tea? It's supposed to effect an improvement.

phoenix Tue 11-Apr-17 22:24:03

Not bother Ana, I can't stand cucumber anyway wink

(Now dons tin helmet and takes up defensive position under the kitchen table to await the well drilled troops of the pro cucumber militia)

phoenix Tue 11-Apr-17 22:18:43

Oh Durhamjen, I didn't mean to imply "permission", perhaps my post was clumsily constructed!

Elegran, 2 well put posts, (I thought so, anyway) love the "spilling tea on the vicar" bit!

Ana Tue 11-Apr-17 22:12:48

Blimey phoenix, so sorry if I've annoyed you!

Penstemmon Tue 11-Apr-17 22:00:53

Argue the point/opinion not the person. Don't nit pick or refer back to something a poster said 3 months ago! Simples!

phoenix Tue 11-Apr-17 21:32:23

Yes, Ana, of course you are right about threads getting heated or even nasty (and have completely taken on board your reference to my practically prehistoric membership,although not entirely sure of it's relevance in this context).

No way should GN turn into a Vicar's tea party, and not entirely sure why you think that's what I meant, definitely would rather have a bit of cut and thrust, than than a crust off cucumber sandwich any day, just meant that on some threads, some posts, comments or remarks seem to be personal attacks, rather than any form of debate or argument (argument as opposed to row!)

durhamjen Tue 11-Apr-17 21:23:58

Isn't that why gransnet cafe was started?
Non-confrontational?

Good to know we have permission to be contentious on the politics threads.

Elegran Tue 11-Apr-17 21:19:33

If the threads are heated because of differences of opinion, that is fair enough, but not if someone is spiteful in a non-controversial discussion because that is what they enjoy.