Troll hunting

What is happening on this thread???

Why did you write that nasty comment Holding? I think a little thread for introductions would be nice.

oldbatty You suggested that newbies introduced themselves.
I asked you to set the ball rolling by introducing yourself.
Personally I can’t see the problem.
As for being horrible, I am replying in the tones of like are used on the Infiltrators thread.
Perhaps you should re-examine other posts.

M0nica If the posts that I have referred to are considered to be kind and caring then I shudder to think what will be coming my way when those my comments are aimed at get down to the nitty gritty.

Heaven's above, I can't remember seeing so much anger and vitriol on a thread for a very long time. Holding you seem to have taken the baton of being a victim and run a marathon with it! I appreciate that you're upset and cross about the biting thread but it's silly to carry that across to other threads. Please don't take things so personally; the vast majority of GNetters are lovely, kind and thoughtful people who will be there for you in a heartbeat if you ever needed support.

I have no problem writing a little introduction but perhaps right here, right now is not the correct thing.

T'was no more than a random thought.

the vast majority of GNetters are lovely, kind and thoughtful people who will be there for you in a heartbeat if you ever needed support.

Hear Hear, Chew. I had terrific support this year from some very kind GNs when I really needed it. to all of them and the many others who offer help, support and advice.

Holding I am even more confused. As far as I know I have not posted anything at anytime that was personal to one person on one thread or disrespectful to them.

Yes, I have posted my unease on one or two threads and on one, explained why in some detail, but never in a hostile way and in one case the OP did expand her original post and it was clear that it was general.

Usually(99%?) when a OP is in deep distress and seeks solace here she (and it is almost always a she) types a long and detailed, stream of consciousness post giving every minute detail of everything surrounding the problem. I doubt you will find anyone on GN who has doubted one of these, they are most of them inimitable, trolls cannot do them. But if someone just posts something like I have been crying all day and I am contemplating suicide. My DiL was rude to me this morning. What is your experience? I feel we have every reason to be cautious until we know more.

I have found 3 new “actual” friends on this site, have lots of virtual friends.

Even those of us who disagree on the political threads have lots in common on others.

Such a supportive and friendly place to be ??????

Yes. I have made one good friend since joining GN and have met several others and enjoyed the meet up.

From holdingontometeeth "but newbies are cast with the burden of proving themselves genuine due to suspicions of more established members."

really? since when?

And I won't even mention the use of the wrong word...........

Why such angry hostile posts Holding Has someone been nasty to you or have they just seen things from a different angle that you’re not happy with
I m quite baffled where this aggression and hostility has cropped up from

Me too. Something not right?

Quite breezy out tonight in Devon.

I think a little thread for introductions would be nice.
Oldbatty I think there is a thread for new posters to introduce themselves - if they wish.
If they don't want to that's fair enough.
I think you, along with others, have been on here long enough not to need an introduction as you have contributed to many threads.

I am puzzled by the hostility too.
Holding a grudge from thread to thread is not a nice thing and not a way to elicit helpful responses on any subject holdingon.

I think many of us have been 'bruised' occasionally on GN but that is par for the course with so many differing opinions.

Just have a look at the Thread that I started Another Young Lady who cant control her mouth.
Suggestions that I smack, bite and shout at a 5 year old
Another poster gleefully suggesting that I regretted posting.
Referring to her as a brat and a madam!
Why such hostility?
Then I look at the threads Trolls and Infiltration and see you all congratulating yourselves on your skills at outing Trolls and false Threads.
What about those who have innocently posted as I did, in good faith, and receive such hostility?
So its a case of the biter biting back.
Yes, there are suspicious posts, but if you are unsure of them then move on to another one.
How would you feel if you were a victim of such nasty, personal posts?
Should you read the other posts that I have mentioned you will see that others support my comments.
Even wrongly picking on one innocent poster is one too many.
You may all have been together for some time and formed bonds/friendships but this does not give you the authorisation to treat other newer members any differently from the way that you would yourself wish to be treated.
Your incessant hunt for trolls is having a detrimental effect on those who would like to contribute but are reticent to do so.
One of you even smugly says that "Granny knows best"
So read your Infiltration and Trolls Threads again and perhaps you can see why I have taken umbrage.
I note that none of the Threads that I have mentioned have merited enough kudos to make the daily list of Threads sent out by GN to all subscribers of their mailing list.

Well it may surprise you Holding but I don’t have bonds with anyone on these threads at all, some have, some haven’t Like with all forums /groups/ clubs you feel an outsider for as long as it takes but the best way to become part of the group is to show a bit of humility and enter slowly not like a big old thunderclap putting everyone’s back up You have a very aggressive way of posting
I m sorry you didn’t get the answers you expected on the biting thread you probably started it as a lighthearted comical thread and it went pear shaped this sometimes happens not everyone has the same sense of humour, perhaps you were unlucky in timing

From now you can take this one of two ways you can carry on being defensive and aggressive like a blunderbus or you can take a step back lick your wounds and come back with an ounce of humility

By the way I started the infiltration thread not because I was in cahoots with anyone and not because I wanted to hurt any newcomers but because I was fed up with seeing some very kind soft hearted posters opening their hearts to people who were taking the piss

I don’t post for mailing lists,( never looked at them) popularity, or any other reason and none of us are incessantly hunting for trolls (talk about exaggeration) but neither are we ‘roll over’ old dears

So there you go, now it s over to you

I have no trouble worrying about putting peoples back up, nor with being classed as an outsider.
And as for showing humility, I would point out to you that it wasn’t me that suggested that I bite, smack and verbally intimidate a 5 year old child. Who was referred to as a brat and a madam.
It is pack culture, and I have no problem in confrontation, no matter how many of you try to justify the situation.

Ahh well I tried ...........you carry on doing it your way Holdingon
All the best

By the way I didn’t even post on your biting thread or had any involment with your posts until you came on here all guns blazing

Chewbacca You talk about kindness.
Regarding my 5 year old attempting to bite, you posted that you would be tempted to bite her back to ensure that she didn’t repeat her actions.
That’s what I call a special kind of kindness.

Merry Christmas! Its raining here in my part of the World and I have a lot of shopping to do today. Goodwill to All

I would point out to you that it wasn’t me that suggested that I bite, smack and verbally intimidate a 5 year old child. Who was referred to as a brat and a madam.

Go back and you will find my post said none of those things, but there was nothing about your OP that suggested it was meant to be humorous. To most of us it was not a topic that could ever be humorous. This is a problem with writing something down, you cannot always indicate humour the way you can with a voice. I have had that problem myself. Nor can you dictate how people will respond to a thread you post. I was taken aback at the universal reaction to one subject I posted, but that is life.

I must confess, however, that I am among those who cannot see any humour in a 5 year old biting, witty response or not. I have a daughter who had the gift of the swift retort at an age as young as 5. I often found myself biting my lip when she came back with some witty comment after misbehaving, but did let her wit get between me and judging and, if necessary punishing, the behaviour that preceded it.

Some times one posts a thread that is miscalculated, I have done it and so have you. The wisest course of action is to put it aside and forget it.

I am intrigued by the idea that a well-known poster should introduce herself. After many posts and interactions oldbatty (as just one example) is an established member of GN.
Surely you don't mean that we should all re-introduce ourselves every time a new poster appears?
Re the biting, it was simply a mistake on your part to post a serious subject in what you thought was a light-hearted way. I didn't reply critically but do agree with those who say that such behaviour has to be dealt with firmly and not with an indulgent 'bless'.
Accept that you got it a wrong, stop digging and move on.

I expect my contribution will fall flat, but for what it is worth
Blimey!

So much vitriol, so much aggression, so much outrage!

Many of the comments are clearly about another thread or threads and should be confined to them or risk deletion under GNHQ guidelines, but there is no way OP could have envisaged a harmless enough “site stuff” post turning into this barrage of umbrage.

Breathe.