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HQ is it really acceptable ....

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suziewoozie Thu 23-Jan-20 12:22:34

to post any story at all about Meghan and Harry no matter how lacking in evidence from whatever gutter source? Can they just be libelled by posts on GN because it’s open season on them and they therefore have no rights? Opinion is one thing but on here it’s now often inseparable from lies.

suziewoozie Thu 23-Jan-20 17:57:49

Nice discussion to be had about ‘completely careless mistake I CBA to check because we all know she’s an evil witch’ and lying. Still libellous either way

lucywinter Thu 23-Jan-20 17:50:30

(Watch out craftyone !. No mistakes allowed round here.)

lucywinter Thu 23-Jan-20 17:48:24

Ok. Googled 'egregious'.

Well, as Meghan does seem to want to do voiceovers for film and tv, we had better make sure we get the programmes right, or we shall all be up in court for getting it wrong.

icanhandthemback Thu 23-Jan-20 17:46:30

Eglantine21, Defamation (Libel or Slander) is not a criminal offence, it is a civil matter which why most normal people cannot afford to litigate about it.

suziewoozie Thu 23-Jan-20 17:44:10

craftys post was a rather egregious example lucy and fully merited criticism

GagaJo Thu 23-Jan-20 17:40:41

That's strange, Annie Bach, because I had a post deleted for saying Tonald Drump was a rapist.

Anniebach Thu 23-Jan-20 17:36:14

I am relieved that post was deleted, i had thoughts of Gransnet hitting the headlines.

lucywinter Thu 23-Jan-20 17:30:27

Are you sure "the current hate fest" didn't turn a bit on craftyone there?

suziewoozie Thu 23-Jan-20 17:28:25

Oh dear lucy what do you think libel means? It’s about lies that are potentially damaging.

suziewoozie Thu 23-Jan-20 17:23:04

lucy yes it is imo. Anyone could make up anything about anyone and simply say they believed it to be true. If we post something as a fact (not an opinion) which is very negative about someone and puts them in a bad light, we should at least do them the common courtesy of basing it on some source. What is happening with the current hate fest imo is that some posters are so desperate to believe anything bad about MM that they half hear/read something, employ no critical faculties whatsoever as to the possible veracity of the ‘fact’ and post away.
The stupid post about the ‘marriage’ to JG fits this bill as well. The idea that MM’s wonderful sister for starters wouldn’t have fed on that story if it were true is risible.

LaraGransnet (GNHQ) Thu 23-Jan-20 17:18:39

We've had a look into it. That particular post was deleted as soon as we became aware of it. The confusion may have come about when a post alongside it was reported (presumably in error instead of the offensive one) so the GN response would have been about that one.

Eglantine21 Thu 23-Jan-20 17:17:58

I think saying you believedsomething to be true is no defence in law.

Libel is a criminal offence.

lucywinter Thu 23-Jan-20 17:16:01

I can't understand why the post by craftyone was deleted. It was incorrect, as following posts pointed out, but I wouldn't think it was exactly libellous. confused

lucywinter Thu 23-Jan-20 17:13:41

...and is it really worth making a heck of a fuss about?

lucywinter Thu 23-Jan-20 17:12:20

If someone makes a contribution to a thread stating something that they believe to be true, can that really be called "lying"?

MawB Thu 23-Jan-20 17:09:53

Thread about a thread.

CBA to plough through the mud somebody is trying their best to rake up, it does nobody any credit.

suziewoozie Thu 23-Jan-20 17:00:35

Well craftys post has been deleted. That must be a great disappointment for those of you who think anything goes in the M and H pile on.

Eglantine21 Thu 23-Jan-20 16:53:15

Id be very interested though Laura in why Gransnet thought it was ok

Eglantine21 Thu 23-Jan-20 16:52:28

sparkii say d Prince Andrew was a paedophile. I’ve written that very badly...

Eglantine21 Thu 23-Jan-20 16:51:22

Harry, not Garry. Oh dear......

Eglantine21 Thu 23-Jan-20 16:50:42

It was in the “I feel sorry for Prince Garry” thread and sparkii stated categorically that he was a paedophile. Her post has since been deleted.

I was very shocked that Gransnet left it in the thread for such a lng while. Even more shocked Annie that you were told it was acceptable.

Anniebach Thu 23-Jan-20 16:45:46

LaraGransnet it would mean searching through all the threads on the royals, I wish I hadn’t deleted the reply I received. I definitely asked was it safe for Gransnet. My concern was it being read by other than members of the forum.

I will try , it still troubles me .

LaraGransnet (GNHQ) Thu 23-Jan-20 16:35:29

Hello, HQ here.
@anniebach if you could report that post again we will take a look at it. As far as we are aware we've dealt with any libellous posts but if one has slipped through the net please let us know and we will rectify.
As far as general moderation goes, we do try to delete any posts that we feel go too far whilst still allowing people to voice their opinions. We will continue to delete any posts we feel are racist or break any of our other guidelines so please do report anything you feel is amiss. We don't always get it right, we know, but please bear in mind moderation can sometimes be a very grey area and we're never going to please everyone. Thanks again for being our eyes in particularly busy times when it's not possible for us to see every post. HQ

Anniebach Thu 23-Jan-20 15:48:41

It was stating someone was guilty of a crime but he had not even been charged with that crime or any crime.

3nanny6 Thu 23-Jan-20 15:28:25

I am in agreement with Anniebach about the post saying Prince Andrew was a paedophile. I did not go as far as to report it however I thought it presumptuous to make the accusation as after all Prince Andrew has not been on trial or convicted of that offence as yet.

To have been friendly with someone he knew behaved in that sort of way with underage girls shows he was not making a conscious effort to distance himself from that disgusting behaviour.
Prince Andrew has two daughters but no grand-children as yet I would for certain think twice if I was his daughter whether I would want him near my children.