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suziewoozie Thu 23-Jan-20 12:22:34

to post any story at all about Meghan and Harry no matter how lacking in evidence from whatever gutter source? Can they just be libelled by posts on GN because it’s open season on them and they therefore have no rights? Opinion is one thing but on here it’s now often inseparable from lies.

Oopsminty Thu 23-Jan-20 15:23:53

It is like a fishewives' convention at times

Have you ever been to one, Jaycee5?

I've never been to a 'fishewives' convention' so I'd not know what they are like

Maybe that's a 'lie'

This thread has been started for no real reason

Surely if we're concerned about posts we should report?

I must say I am amazed that the Prince Andrew one is allowed to stand though

Artdecogran Thu 23-Jan-20 15:18:49

Suzie regarding your last statement about MM taking money or not, it is still only a matter of opinion because no one actually knows whether she has accepted money. It cannot be stated as fact, so until you have definitive proof from the horses mouth, then you are castigating someone as a liar with no basis in truth.

Jaycee5 Thu 23-Jan-20 15:17:02

Anniebach I agree. That should have been reported and the response was wrong. It is not a word that should be used directly of anyone who has not been convicted.

Suziewoozie I agree. It is like a fishewives' convention at times. There seems to be at least one a day. The gleeful hope for a divorce to gloat over is the least of it, the detailed knowledge people have of personal relationships is something to behold.

suziewoozie Thu 23-Jan-20 15:12:35

Insults = criticism

suziewoozie Thu 23-Jan-20 15:12:05

quiz of course I can see that the interpretation of something is an opinion. But if you state fo example ‘ MM received. money for allowing her photo to be taken in the park’ that is either true or not - a fact or a lie and definitely not an opinion

merlotgran Thu 23-Jan-20 15:06:07

Thank you, kitty

The insults will continue no doubt.

Some people don't know any better.

quizqueen Thu 23-Jan-20 15:01:16

Last night during the Thomas Markle interview, we were shown home videos, which purport to show that he and his daughter had a close and loving relationship when she was growing up. This looks like actual proof to me of the real situation, and not lies. Now, Meghan is reported to not be in contact her father. Why that is, can only be a matter of opinion for outsiders. Truth versus opinion; it's all up for discussion surely.

suziewoozie Thu 23-Jan-20 14:57:34

kitty you know I wasn’t giving permission but responding to merlot. You lot are really scraping the bottom of the barrel aren’t you? Sure sign of losing the argument re the acceptability of lying.

quizqueen Thu 23-Jan-20 14:47:31

As the general public doesn't actually know what are lies or what are not, it's all really down to a personal opinion. An opinion is not libellous and everyone is entitled to have one on any topic they see fit.

Also, how can anyone say something they have read or heard is actually a lie, unless they have proof of it personally. That is just as ridiculous a statement . Really, it's just an opinion that something is a lie or something is truth depending on one's thoughts on a subject. People who take public funding should be open to receive criticism ( or praise or, indeed, neutrality).

kittylester Thu 23-Jan-20 14:40:25

And thank you for permission to report your posts.

Chestnut Thu 23-Jan-20 14:39:07

suziewoozie H and M are real people with a little baby who should not just be a punch bag on GN?
Oh the hypocrisy! How many 'real people' have you used as a punch bag SW including other GN posters. Stones and glass houses come to mind. Why don't you concern yourself with your own posts and let others do the same.

kittylester Thu 23-Jan-20 14:36:49

suziewoozie please dont be rude to other posters. Argue your point - yes - but to insult people is dreadful.

I consider you owe merlot, at least, an apology!

Chewbacca Thu 23-Jan-20 14:35:45

Godwin's Law twice in one thread! grin

suziewoozie Thu 23-Jan-20 14:30:24

Soz Chew given that the Nazis didn’t win the war, I am exercising the democratic right I therefore have to change my mind, be inconsistent, protest about whatever I want just as you lot are free to gossip, malign, even if appears, lie about, make it up as you go along, about M and H. I know you’d all rather be left in peace to post as you wish but well tough

suziewoozie Thu 23-Jan-20 14:24:09

Read my OP properly annie I was making the point about truth and lies, fact and opinion. Distinctions I realise that are not highly valued or maybe not even understood by some on GN.

Anniebach Thu 23-Jan-20 14:16:27

suzie you didn’t speak out again the allegation yet you
start a thread complaining that what has been in the press is
being discussed.

Anniebach Thu 23-Jan-20 14:13:49

Thank you suzie I really was concerned it would cause trouble for the forum, seems not unless it is libelling a poster.

Chewbacca Thu 23-Jan-20 14:13:42

You really do protest too much suziewoozie. You asked on one of the threads, and site stuff, as to whether there was a hide button, so that you didn't have to see threads that irked you. You were given the details as to how threads can be hidden. But you're obviously not using it and neither are you just scrolling past the threads you dislike. For the sake of those of who do want to discuss items of news, and your own satisfaction, why don't you just scroll on past or hide threads? confused Or do you actually enjoy throwing a tantrum because no one is listening to you? Not even GNHQ?

suziewoozie Thu 23-Jan-20 14:09:43

Yes I was surprised at that annie. You were quite right to report that and HQ’s reply is awful.

Chewbacca Thu 23-Jan-20 14:07:45

here we go- invoke the Nazis

I claim Godwin's Law! grin

Anniebach Thu 23-Jan-20 14:05:47

I reported a post which said Prince Andrew was a peodophile,
I was concerned it would cause this Forum problems, I was told it was acceptable it hadn’t been been against a poster.

If stating someone is a peodophile is acceptable surely repeating what is in the press is acceptable?

suziewoozie Thu 23-Jan-20 14:00:44

No it’s a thread about the the acceptability of lying.

merlotgran Thu 23-Jan-20 13:53:58

This is a thread about a thread.

lavenderzen Thu 23-Jan-20 13:53:50

susie about the general tone of threads.
We are all entitled to our opinions, but I just found it very hard to read some of the things and not to feel upset about it. Just me being over sensitive probably. Better to not read them at all I suppose. However now, despite feeling that H & M should do what they feel is right with regard to their family in the beginning and I have said so on various threads, and I still believe that, as time has gone on I start to feel quite uneasy and worried about what the outcome is going to be for them. I just hope they will find the peace and happiness they want.

suziewoozie Thu 23-Jan-20 13:49:48

^crafty* didn’t quote any source at all did she? Because there wasn’t one stating what she posted. Art ??? here we go- invoke the Nazis ???Any poster can report any post of mine they want.