Is it really impossible to leave Gransnet offcially?

Well said POGS ??????

The fact the Megan and Harry thread is being raised as a point in question is only relevant if other threads had never resulted in pure bile and nastiness. To be Frank some posters who feel other posters have been out of order on one thread may well have caused equal offence to others on a different thread.

Jacob Rees Mogg, Theresa May, Dianne Abbott, Jeremy Corbyn, Boris Johnson, The Queen, Uncle Tom Cobley and all, a purple spotty cat could give rise to posters being abusive but it is not the case at one time the same posters are at fault.

Only a narcissist believes he she is above reproach, only a narcissist believes it always ' others'.

Callistemon Yes, it is quite scary to know all your postings remain forever. I just searched my former alias on Gransnet and there they were. At least I now know, more or less, when I was here. I didn't think it was so long ago!

If you write a letter published by a newspaper, it is a matter of record. It is there for all time. It seems the same applies to postings on Gransnet. Presumably, we all ticked the box when we joined. I wonder if this realisation will make people a little more careful what they say. That would be nice.

I'm not sure I've followed the tearing to shreds bit that is mentioned here. But I don't think the opinion(s), vile or full of praise, about a person in the public eye (a celebrity if you like), by a member or by several members of GN will make one jot of difference to the 'reputation' of whichever public person it is.

Who has been 'destroyed' by a gransnetter "hammering on"?

Elegran has never been the kind of poster who would do what you insinuating, Gracesgran and I don't think you need to feel sorry for her in the slightest.

Elegran is always calm, sensible and never nasty.

Sorry, I am trying to keep out of the bickering but that was a post that I could not ignore.

This a General comment/opinion not aimed toward any one single poster.

Posters who repeatedly join, leave, join, leave and announce they are doing so because they take issue with Gransnet and apportion blame to other posters without giving the remote thought they too are part of that pattern are understandably not taken too seriously.

Posters who repeatedly join and leave and keep their Username at least give other posters the opportunity of understanding the persona behind the Username when they return, like um or loathe them scenario as the case may be they are being totally open and not deceptful so deserve credit. .

Many posters join, leave, join bla bla for perfectly sound reasons and there are equally good reasons why they change their Username. However those who join, leave, join bla bla and change their Username to avoid being connected to their past Username are another case in question.

If a poster wishes to leave then leave, some announce they are leaving others just leave. If they return and keep their Username I have no problem with that, not that another poster needs my permission.

Where issues usually occur, happen is when a poster flounce off accusing GN or posters of being horrid but perversely they return, Why would a poster do that? If GN and posters were horrid in their opinion why come back time and again? . Why GN has become a horrid place may in fact be because of their own style of posting but of course that would not be ever a thought in their mind, it is always others.

It's not rocket science but is it virtue signalling or simply a masochistic nature, it certainly does not make sense to put yourself back into the Lions Den as they see it time and again.

I thought a ‘flounce’ Lucca was anytime someone announced they were leaving instead of simply going ?- usually with the intent of being begged to stay !

In which case , by that definition I think it qualifies as a flounce ?

Annie, that is one hell of comment. Think I will go and lie down .

I know no one, in the real world, who would go on trying it destroy the reputation of someone hour after hour like that Elegran and I feel sorry for you if you do. Most of us, in the real world, having seen a 'friend' finds it offensive draw back a little on the rhetoric or change the subject, we don't hammer on hour after hour getting to a greater and greater extreme.

This is nothing like the real world, sadly. I think I had always hoped it would be. Far more use is made of it as an echo chamber for the many who just need approval from others whatever level of degradation their own behaviour has to reach to achieve that.

But Gransnet is an interesting place, Greymar, there is no "could be".

Like real life, which has bits that are unfair, cruel, and tragic - but you would never say that, "The world could be an interesting place.

Greymar you posted on the Megan thread, critcised posters
who criticised Megan, critcism is critcism regardless of whom
is being criticised

I think cliques are in the eye of the beholder

Gransnet is no different from the "real world" in having people in it who are there for the sole purpose of disagreeing with others and attacking for the sake of it, careless of whether they use facts or fiction to do so.

Do you also feel tainted by being in the real world, GracesGranMK3 ? There is no way of leaving that , except by entering a closed religious order, or by dying. You just have to get on with real life, perhaps calling on Reinhold Nburg's prayer as backup " God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, Courage to change the things I can, And wisdom to know the difference. "

If you cancel your GN membership, you leave behind the backbiting of a minority of members, but you also leave behind the support and sistership of the majority. That is your choice. If you are tempted to return, it is because in absence you appreciate what you took for granted. previously.

Which clique would that be Greymar?

jura always cops for it here. She is not one of the clique and sometimes ( sorry) can be a bit foot in mouth maybe??
As for standing up for what you believe, yes admirable. I believe in fair play, I believe GN could be an interesting place but the thread on Meghan truly was " something else" Poised over the keyboard ready to pounce any time, absolutely vile .

It was me that said I don't like green dresses . Sincere apologies if I offended anyone.

Cunco no, your online persona and all your posts live on for ever until the end of days.

Frightening, isn't it!!

So do tell me how you would disagree with people who are tearing others to shreds for the fun of it, using lies and fictions, Annie?

It's a cultural thing I suppose but it is certainly not an opinion as in "I like green dresses/don't like green dresses"; it sets out to destroy someone's reputation. It is basically bullies stealing the truth.

I cannot admire someone who does that and feel tainted by being associated with it as a GN member.

How do you disagree with someone who enjoys destroying others? It is about the person not the comment in the end.

Yes we should stand up for what we believe but some have to
critcise posters because they stand up for what they believe.

I agree Lucca - well said.

I took Jura’s post to be slightly tongue in cheek as in she can’t cope anymore with the tone of some threads but is addicted to looking at them. I don’t think it’s a flounce. I also think the “if you don’t like what we’re saying get off the thread” attitude is wrong we should be able to stand up for what we believe surely?

GracesGranMK3 You came over perfectly reasonably; and I needed correcting. When I looked up the rules last night, I failed to scroll down the page and so missed the crucial bit. We live and learn, not least to scroll down the page!

Yours was good information and I am grateful to you for pointing it out.

Not correcting Cunco and I'm sorry if it came over that way. Just sharing knowledge.

GracesGranMK3 Thanks for correcting me. ? I thought everything was scrubbed.

I think the rest of my post stands. When the fun stops, stop - or at least pause for a while.

I think sleazy underworld is rather overstating the case. As has already been said, why can't people just ignore threads which they don't like and move on to something which they find more to their taste. Simples.