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Is it really impossible to leave Gransnet offcially?

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jura2 Mon 09-Mar-20 19:01:09

Are we trapped for ever and ever? I know it is simple not to log in and not to post- but I would prefer to have my account deleted- so I am not tempted to look in and comment. Surely it is against Human Rights to not be allowed to request to be deleted.

MawB Tue 10-Mar-20 20:51:46

As I said, disingenuous , but no shortage of helpful advice - but then somebody spotted a mole hill and before our very eyes appeared ...a mountain!

Elegran Tue 10-Mar-20 20:54:30

I had just left, GG3, but you called me back by mentioning my name. I'll ignore it and stay away now that I realise that the OP has apparently succeeded in departing. I've a feeling that we may hear from her again in a while, though.

OoRoo.

MawB Tue 10-Mar-20 21:00:49

when she left before, GNHQ, who she contacted because she didn't know how to do it first encouraged her to stay and the deleted the account for her. So she still had no knowledge of how easy it is to do
Did I read this right?
deleted the account for her
That was certainly how I read OP’s question.
So as I thought Jura did leave and presumably decided to rejoin.
This discussion is entirely circular, irrelevant and pointless.
And nobody is interpreting anything, just reading the words and not denigrating, stating a fact.
Problem with that?

GracesGranMK3 Tue 10-Mar-20 21:05:39

Yes, but you will never apologise for having a go although waiting till she had left. But you are not worth any more of my time when it comes down to it.

MawB Tue 10-Mar-20 21:11:50

I have nothing to apologise for, I did not “have a go” and as for waiting until she left I have been to enjoying a day with my daughter , lunch out and then the train journey from hell back home, taking 3 1/2hours, many stops, several changes plus a shuttle service.
I am also unwilling to apologise for not prioritising your ridiculous rants and accusations over my DD’s 45th birthday - unless you felt you could apologise for bad mouthing me and others (“squalor”) or if anybody felt I needed to.
As if.

NatashaGransnet (GNHQ) Tue 10-Mar-20 21:27:38

Hi all,

This thread has descended into a bun fight and completely derailed. Please refrain from personal attacks, otherwise we will have to pull the thread.

POGS Tue 10-Mar-20 21:45:35

Natasha

This is the second thread GNHQ have threatened to delete and I will say again:

Why the threat of pulling this thread when there are other threads past and present that are far worse.

Pulling a thread, as opposed to deleting individual posts, is GNHQ aiding and abetting those posters, who are very often repeat offenders, to continue to carry on making personal attacks as is their want. They would love to feel they have achieved their aim to shut down anybody from holding a different opinion to them by a thread being deleted. You will be doing the job for them.

If you feel there are personal comments going against Forum Guidelines deal with those posters but why should posters who spend their time on Gransnet suffer for bad behaviour by the minority.

This is getting ridiculous. Why threaten yo throw out everyone at a party when only 2 or 3 started throwing ' the buns'.

Marmight Tue 10-Mar-20 22:08:22

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MawB Tue 10-Mar-20 22:29:26

More like picking a fight in an empty room.

Anniebach Tue 10-Mar-20 22:30:37

True POGS

MerylStreep Wed 11-Mar-20 07:52:27

Natasha.
We are not children here. This 'conversation' is no different to any other that happens in the real world when 2/several ? people have a difference of opinion as to what was said.

POGS has made her feelings known to you twice recently so I'm adding my voice to hers.
Unless there's very bad language/ personal insults let the adults sort it out.

sodapop Wed 11-Mar-20 09:00:20

Well said MerylStreep

Elegran Wed 11-Mar-20 09:38:09

The thread hasn't derailed. It went through a bumpy patch, where some forthright things were said, but the OP's question was answered and they presumably took the advice given and did what they were planning.

NatashaGransnet (GNHQ) Wed 11-Mar-20 09:53:18

We obviously don't like to delete entire threads wherever possible, but sometimes when a thread is completely derailed and becomes a bunfight with no direction, and only serves as a space for users to make personal attacks, it's best for everyone if we delete the thread.

In this case, the OP's question has been answered, and the continuation of the thread seems only so users can continue a personal disagreement. We're not saying we'll definitely delete a thread when we post like this, but it's more a warning that if the thread continues in the same light, then we may have to pull it.

We hope this clears things up. smile

lemongrove Wed 11-Mar-20 11:31:32

Elegran??

Natasha from reading the thread in it’s entirety it’s quite obvious that there is a disruptive and argumentative voice on here.. but why punish all because of that?
I echo what POGS says too, and from reading Mumsnet threads and comparing GN threads, not only are GN ones more civil in tone generally but you censor them far more than MN ones, not only for individual posts but entire threads much more strictly.Some deletions lately on GN have been quite frankly bizarre.

MerylStreep Wed 11-Mar-20 12:12:04

Lemongrove
Absolutely agree Re GN/MN. Is it because it's somehow unseemly for us of an older generation to be outspoken and forthright in our views and opinions?

Callistemon Wed 11-Mar-20 12:50:51

We should all behave like laydees

sodapop Wed 11-Mar-20 12:56:30

grin Callistemon no fun in that though.

Callistemon Wed 11-Mar-20 13:03:29

I'm trying though

Very trying as DH says.

GagaJo Wed 11-Mar-20 13:18:23

I think we definitely don't fit the stereotype of nice little grannies. I find the bickering hilarious. Let gransnet try and sell our comments!

Marydoll Wed 11-Mar-20 13:21:44

Gagajo, I do beg your pardon! I am indeed a nice little grannie. Well the little part is correct! wink grin

seacliff Wed 11-Mar-20 13:43:42

GNHQ I agree with POGS Tue 10-Mar-20 21:45:35 too.

Let the posts stand, so all can see what exactly has happened.

Chewbacca Wed 11-Mar-20 14:04:17

Late to the party as usual but *POGS' post was absolutely spot on. If GNHQ delete this thread, those who have tried to derail it will have succeeded.

MerylStreep Wed 11-Mar-20 14:17:58

Let's not forget, we are GN. Without us there is no business.
I urge you all to speak up ( if you agree, obviously ?) when we are told a thread will be shut down.

POGS Wed 11-Mar-20 14:25:58

Natasha

'In this case, the OP's question has been answered, and the continuation of the thread seems only so users can continue a personal disagreement'
-

If that is the criteria for the threatening to delete this thread then you will only have threads for ' Games and Lurkers' if you are not careful. Can I ask re your reason for possibly deleting this thread :-

a) How many posts are required before an OP question is answered and the thread should cease.?

b) Who decides on a thread when the OP question has been answered, are you at GNHQ going to intervene and tell us when an OP has reached the required amount of posts to satisfy the OP has received an answer and stop further posts?

c) Why do you not delete posts from posters who you deem to break Forum Guidelines preferring to delete the thread which posters who support GN have spent time and thought engaging in?

d) I repeat the ' disruptors' who repeatedly use personal attack will garner strength to continue to disrupt threads and the ' bun fights' will not only continue but increase and GNHQ will aid and abet their behaviour.

e) Do you not see or read the time lines of threads to assess how many personal attacks are used by individual posters and on how many threads?

f) There are common denominators that are easy to assess to inform GNHQ how often and which posters are more likely to break Forum Guidelines or disrupt threads do you ever feel a responsibility to members to assess who they are and act on it?

g) Members having the responsibility to ' Report ' posts are not an indicator by the way as to who or how often abusive/personal attacks happen. I for example do not report posts of such a nature because I think leaving them in situ shows the abusive behaviour of a poster and I genuinely think for those who read the thread they can and will assess when a poster is being abusive for the hell of it or trying to derail the thread. Their game only works in their head.

As a general point I have no idea how to deal with what is visibly to posters who engage in GN ' persistent' bad behaviour posters but we are adults and ask only to be treated as such and deleting threads rather than individual posts is simply allowing bad behaviour to continue.

Thank you for your time.