WEMBLEY and England v Italy *title edited by GNHQ at OP's request*

I meant it is possible to experience opposing emotions.

Kamiso there were lots of upbeat, positive comments on the happy, celebratory thread last night. I for one like to be in both camps, doom and gloom is not my style nor that of several others here. It is possible to understand opposing emotions.

Anniebach

Mollygo the Welsh do not sing a song, they sing The Welsh
National Anthem

Sorry about the mistake Anniebach but it’s still their choice.
They could sing the UK National Anthem if they chose. The Welsh, including members of our family, have such a good reputation for singing that they could make anything sound good.
I didn’t hear any criticism from Welsh people about England singing God Save the Queen, and if there was any, I’d rather not know.

There was me thinking this was going to be a really positive thread about seeing so many happy and upbeat people! I suppose I should know better by now! Gloom and misery prevail!

Callistemon

No, I didn't see it; but that's what has been happening everywhere.

Yep, tour de France included.

No, I didn't see it; but that's what has been happening everywhere.

Whatever the rights and wrongs of the crowds etc, wasn't it a wonderful and joyous occasion.
We've got to get back to normal somehow. But I do understand how some people feel about it.

Callistemon did you see the tv news last night where they showed pictures of fans at distanced tables all over the country? The minute the goals were scored everyone jumped up, ran around and started hugging. What was the point of keeping them all apart?

Kali2

In the meantime we have a small family meeting- first in nearly 2 years- 3 close family couples and 2 children - we will be outside, and 1 couple will have to go to Hôtel as we are not allowed more than 6 from 2 households inside. Just **** ridiculous.

We were going to do that last weekend for a family member's birthday, Kali2 but had to sit on separate tables so we met outside instead. It was so much better anyway than being indoors.

Mollygo the Welsh do not sing a song, they sing The Welsh
National Anthem

You say “we will be outside” don’t you?

Kali2

In the meantime we have a small family meeting- first in nearly 2 years- 3 close family couples and 2 children - we will be outside, and 1 couple will have to go to Hôtel as we are not allowed more than 6 from 2 households inside. Just **** ridiculous.

I don’t see why Kali2

From the current regs
From 17 May - you will be able to meet up to 30 people outdoors, and up to six people or one other household indoors. There are some exemptions. You must not interact with anyone outside of your own group (of 30 people outdoors or six people indoors)
Rule of 6 indoors but up,to 30 out of doors

In the meantime we have a small family meeting- first in nearly 2 years- 3 close family couples and 2 children - we will be outside, and 1 couple will have to go to Hôtel as we are not allowed more than 6 from 2 households inside. Just **** ridiculous.

Maybe check out what time the discussion about English/UK anthems started and who started it.
It was a few years ago, several threads I think.

gillgran thank you, won’t try it again! A magical couple of hours in the local, brilliant atmosphere with people we know, it’s only small, so about forty five people, entry refused to those not booked a table. No misbehaviour, all stood in situ celebrating the goals, we’re very aware our pub could be shut if we were breaking the rules, so everyone behaves. Bring on Rome..??????????????

I'm not going to comment any more because I'll be accused of sour grapes whatever I say.

Maybe check out what time the discussion about English/UK anthems started and who started it.

appropriating the anthem of the union
???

A Union which you despise

Well done, England
No sour grapes from Wales (which has its own Anthem ?)

You can sing the UK National Anthem, or choose a song that you feel is more appropriate.
The Welsh sing Land of My Fathers.
The Scots sang Flower of Scotland.
No country of the UK is prevented from singing God Save the Queen. Would you like the UK National Anthem to be made obligatory for all?
If the England team choose to sing a song, they have the same right as Scotland and Wales to choose which one they sing.
It’s a bit dog-in-the-manger to say, “We don’t want to sing it, so you can’t either.”

There have been lots of threads on GN in the past, Alegrias, with suggestions for a National Anthem for England. Suggestions on a postcard please.

Quite frankly, if England want to sing the National Anthem of Great Britain in the absence of an English National Anthem that is fine by me.

Scotland doesn't have an official National Anthem either but choose to sing Flower of Scotland or Scotland the Brave at sporting events - fair enough as they still haven't managed to choose one.

Sour grapes?
I can't think why else it should be an issue.

Well done, Jaxjacky, that was a brilliant prediction you made earlier..!! 2-0, England win..!!

No sour grapes, but why did I guess you might say that....not predictable at all

Good luck to the players, well done to them for finally beating Germany after 55 years.

Sing Jerusalem like you do at the Commonwealth Games.

I will celebrate too.?

Off to celebrate now with a large G&T ?Cheers!

Shall we sing Flower of Scotland instead? Your football team could sing the National Anthem if they chose....but they won’t.
I hope there are no sour grapes at play here.

lemongrove

It is the UK National Anthem, so you can sing it up in Scotland too if you like Aleg ?

We do when it's appropriate to sing the UK national anthem. When the Queen comes to visit for instance, or when we're watching teams play sport when they are representing the UK. Because it's the UK anthem. But like many things, England think anything in the Union is automatically theirs.