I Never Realised The Olympics Is This Year, Sometime.

Maybe it was someone who has just found this and wanted to blow the whistle at a time that it will have the greatest impact. Who knows.

Joseann

Any cruelty to animals is my pet hate.
As to the four year time lapse, is it because the more famous you become the more people look for faults, and this was the right time?

That's certainly possible. There could be any number of reasons - including someone wishing to sabotage her chances of a medal at the Games (not that that in any way excuses cruel practices).

Any cruelty to animals is my pet hate.
As to the four year time lapse, is it because the more famous you become the more people look for faults, and this was the right time?

vegansrock

The fact that it was 4 years ago is neither here nor there. It wasn’t right then and it isn’t right now.

Where did I say that it was? Once again, for anyone who is in any doubt, I do NOT in any way condone any kind of ill-treatment to horses, including any kind of cruel training methods. I'm just asking why this wasn't reported at the time, instead of waiting until the eve of the Olympics to do so.

* Danish television channel TV2 broadcast a documentary in autumn that showed disturbing footage taken at Danish Nations Cup rider Andreas Helgstrand's riding center. Horses were shown bleeding from their mouths and flanks during training. It was reported that happened as a direct result of the riders' using the snaffle, or metal mouthpiece on the horse's bridle, and the spurs too forcefully.*

Just awful.

Sometimes the horses were kicked and subjected to the so-called Rollkur, which has been banned by the FEI. It involves the rider pulling the horse's mouth far down with the reins, so that the animal almost bites its own chest. The horse's neck is severely overstretched and bent in the process

There are many articles to be found online. Earlier this year USA and Denmark were under the spotlight for cruel practice.

The fact that it was 4 years ago is neither here nor there. It wasn’t right then and it isn’t right now.

I'm not really known as an animal lover but to be cruel to one makes my blood boil.

Kate1949

Beating her horse repeatedly on the legs apparently. Horrible woman.

There's no way anyone who loves horses would condone anything like that. I'm still curious as to why someone has waited until now to report it, rather than doing so at the time.

Dressage is one of the oldest equestrian discipline isn’t it. Developed to train horses to go into battle?

Beating her horse repeatedly on the legs apparently. Horrible woman.

The video was submitted directly to the FEI who are investigating.

MayBee70

‘What happened was completely out of character and does not reflect how I train my horses or coach my pupils, however there is no excuse," she said in statement’.
But is it mistreatment of a horse or something she did coaching her pupils?Eg losing her temper??

This is what I was wondering too - until anyone has seen the clip of what actually happened, we can't say for sure.

It was to do with a horse , Maybee70

There has been a lot of dissatisfaction and complaints about how horses are treated in dressage. After all, it's a very unnatural movement.

Loads of info online

‘What happened was completely out of character and does not reflect how I train my horses or coach my pupils, however there is no excuse," she said in statement’.
But is it mistreatment of a horse or something she did coaching her pupils?Eg losing her temper??

I can guarantee that my SIL DOES know she used to do dressage herself . You can’t possibly believe that all countries in the world have the same ethics when it comes to training . I don’t watch anything that has animals for entertainment for that reason .

Syracute

It’s not sad, she clearly maltreated a horse. Would you prefer it to be covered up ?
My ex sister in. law in Germany is a very passionate horsewoman and has usually 4-6 horses that she owns told me dressage is a cruel sport. The training methods are harsh.
It’s why I never watch it anymore . P

Dressage isn't a cruel sport but there are people in every horse discipline who do not always put the welfare of the horse before their ambition. Most riders find that unacceptable and tbh I'm surprised that CDJ has let herself down like this. I've watched her ride at comps on many occasions, she trains with Carl and I know he wouldn't approve of anything untoward taking place. What I don't understand is why anyone would wait for four years, it should have been reported immediately.

Syracute

It’s not sad, she clearly maltreated a horse. Would you prefer it to be covered up ?
My ex sister in. law in Germany is a very passionate horsewoman and has usually 4-6 horses that she owns told me dressage is a cruel sport. The training methods are harsh.
It’s why I never watch it anymore . P

Have you seen the clip? I'm just asking as I couldn't find a link to it. I do find it sad that one of our greatest Olympians has been accused of something like this - and an 'error of judgement' could mean many things. I'm in no way defending any kind of cruel treatment to animals, but those who say dressage is, in itself, cruel, clearly have never done it themselves. It is perfectly possible to train a horse without resorting to cruel measures.

MayBee70

I’m always suspicious of broadcasters that say it’s easy to cancel the subscription!

When you sign up to any streaming service give it a couple of days and then cancel. Keep a copy of your cancellation confirmation.
You will still get the free month.

Dressage has always been cruel. Very sad for all horses. I'm pleased that this has been exposed. It certainly isn't a one off.

I'm not a fan of cancel culture as a rule but I'd be pleased to see dressage cancelled.

This is why animals should not be in the Olympics. You know that some of them will be mistreated, especially those that don’t make the grade.

OMG that is dreadful news but I'm afraid I don't have any sympathy with any training method that is detrimental to the horse. Horse sport needs to be absolutely transparent about it's training methods but it's a shame that whoever it was waited four years (if that's accurate) surely if they had the welfare of the horse at heart they would have reported the matter straight away. tbh I think that's probably our chance of a medal gone, although Becky is a lovely rider and Jagerbomb is a super horse I doubt they will produce the sort of score that CD-J would have managed.

It’s not sad, she clearly maltreated a horse. Would you prefer it to be covered up ?
My ex sister in. law in Germany is a very passionate horsewoman and has usually 4-6 horses that she owns told me dressage is a cruel sport. The training methods are harsh.
It’s why I never watch it anymore . P

I was trying to find a link to the video of what she's supposedly done, but can't find anything. It's very sad - and it's also a bit sad that whoever had the video waited until now to release it.

I saw this too Missinterpreted how sad and very disappointing for all her fans.