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What is it with British men in hot weather?
(180 Posts)I was driving through town this afternoon, and as the traffic was queueing, I noticed what everybody was wearing on this beautiful sunny day. Most women looked smart, and as if they had dressed for the weather, but oh dear, the men. Some with no tops and their belly over their trousers, some with too tight nylon sports tops, some with what looked like their football shorts on with a long sleeved shirt. Suit wearers had taken their jackets and ties off, and had their long sleeved shirts loose. I didn’t see even one who looked half decent, no chinos, short sleeved shirts, tailored shorts, polo shirts, or sandals without socks to be seen. I think I live in a male style desert.
I'm shorter than 20 years ago, osteoporosis
Apparently not in my case
so I don't know why!
Allira
Musicgirl
@Norah, since when has 5’9 been considered very short for a man? I would have thought it was average height. My father, born in 1940, was 5’8 as a young man and this was the average height at that time. Of course, he shrunk as he grew older, as we all do and as my husband, who was a full 5’6 in his stockinged feet when he was younger and is now 5’4. This is what I consider fairly short. We have two sons and a daughter. The older son is around 5’5, and his younger brother 5’6/5/7. All three men take size 7 shoes, which is great in the sales.
5'9" is average height for British men (5' 7½" is the world average height for men).
DH was astonished to find he's lost 3" in height. We hadn't really noticed because I'm shorter too.
I'm shorter than 20 years ago, osteoporosis.
However, I do have a short thin husband, he does look wonderful in his clothes, dresses smartly - men's clthing was topic.
My DH is always smart but conventional in his clothes. Sadly I can’t get him to wear a short sleeved shirt in the summer.
Whilst having coffee in Next today 3 very elegant women walked by from the same family. D H said one was like a professional model.
Last time I mentioned the ethnicity of someone I was complimenting, I was roundly criticised by someone on GN.
So with regard to the 3 women from this morning, I will only say their beautiful clothes were certainly not purchased in the U.K. but much further away. The jewellery was exotic too.
AmberGran
My DH always ironed his own clothes too
DH irons everything!
Musicgirl
@Norah, since when has 5’9 been considered very short for a man? I would have thought it was average height. My father, born in 1940, was 5’8 as a young man and this was the average height at that time. Of course, he shrunk as he grew older, as we all do and as my husband, who was a full 5’6 in his stockinged feet when he was younger and is now 5’4. This is what I consider fairly short. We have two sons and a daughter. The older son is around 5’5, and his younger brother 5’6/5/7. All three men take size 7 shoes, which is great in the sales.
5'9" is average height for British men (5' 7½" is the world average height for men).
DH was astonished to find he's lost 3" in height. We hadn't really noticed because I'm shorter too.
I am thoroughly judgemental, if you have an opinion on anything then you will make judgements. The discussion is whether the judgement is fair.
If no on eis ever judgemental then obody can have a view or opinion on one one and anything. Look where being non-judgemental about Asian gangs exploiting young girls got us.
Kandinsky
Can you imagine a man posting this about women
This is snobbery and sexism in action.
Was thinking the same thing myself, Kandinsky!! Anyone of either sex who wants to wants to look smart and dress appropriately for the weather, can do so no problem and stylishly in chainstore clothing!
"You can usually assume if a man is smart and wearing modern clean and nicely pressed clothes he has a good wife in background who gives tactful advice and probably buys for him as she is out and about. "
Where does that leave us widowers, Sleepy? Or smart bachelors?
I’m inclined to agree with OP but don’t have a problem if men untuck their white shirts in hot weather at all.
The post reminded of an occasion in the early ‘90s. We were in Bali on holiday and visited Kuta. Whilst there I experienced a sight which I can never erase from my mind. A middle aged, very overweight, nut brown man sauntered into a supermarket wearing nothing but a G-string. 🤢
Jockytaff
Casdon - if a man posted an article such as this about women, there would be an uproar.
I don’t think there would, just look on Reddit, Quora, or the lad mags, there is plenty of discussion about what women look like there, no uproar. Bemoaning of British dress standards is everywhere. Even the Telegraph runs articles advising people of both sexes how to dress better.
There are some rather stereotypical comments on here I think.
Sleepy MrJ dresses himself, always looks tidy and according to my children ‘keeps himself smart’.
He also does all the ironing in this house - it’s great!
Casdon - if a man posted an article such as this about women, there would be an uproar.
Thanks Petra,for the tip, I've been banished to 'a collar free ironing zone' do I care? Not a lot! I don't have problems with my own, so there is some hope 
TerryBull
Ironing collars. You iron the underneath first. Saddow that I am I actually like ironing shirts.
Ooh just read the post about varicose veins - shame on you Aveline for shaming your sisters 😬
Topless men in the street is utterly gross. I do find that compared to other European countries the Brits have relatively little class (present company excepted!)
Claremont
westendgirl
I think some of you are very judgemental of your own sex. Why comment about varicose veins . ?If you haven't got them , you are very lucky. If they upset you don't look at people's legs.
I do have them , find them embarrassing but I will not wear thick tights in this weather.I am sorry to hear. And yes, I haven^t got a single one and count myself lucky. But men or women, it is possible to dress for this very hot weather and not hang bellies out- surely. And even varicose veins can be cleverly covered with a longer, flowing dress or longer shorts.
I am overweight and have a bit of a tummy, and wouldn't dream of imposing it on others, hot, very hot or not. Nothing to do with being snobby. Respect for myself, and others. Ooops memory f*rt. what was the name of Madame Bouquet's brother in law, with his singlet? Even he didn't actually allow his beer belly out.
Onslow👍
Wot no knotted white hankies on heads?
Well personally I think it’s brilliant that we are a country where anyone can wear whatever they want without being judged. Oh, wait…
westendgirl
I think some of you are very judgemental of your own sex. Why comment about varicose veins . ?If you haven't got them , you are very lucky. If they upset you don't look at people's legs.
I do have them , find them embarrassing but I will not wear thick tights in this weather.
I am sorry to hear. And yes, I haven^t got a single one and count myself lucky. But men or women, it is possible to dress for this very hot weather and not hang bellies out- surely. And even varicose veins can be cleverly covered with a longer, flowing dress or longer shorts.
I am overweight and have a bit of a tummy, and wouldn't dream of imposing it on others, hot, very hot or not. Nothing to do with being snobby. Respect for myself, and others. Ooops memory f*rt. what was the name of Madame Bouquet's brother in law, with his singlet? Even he didn't actually allow his beer belly out.
You can usually assume if a man is smart and wearing modern clean and nicely pressed clothes he has a good wife in background who gives tactful advice and probably buys for him as she is out and about. Most men say ‘’why do I need any new clothes I have lots in wardrobe’’ not realising how dated the colours and collars and fabrics etc change so much they look a bit sad. You can also spot the singles a mile off. Still ladies we keep the shops going and the coffee shops and restaurants etc.
We split the ironing now, each doing our own, plus I do the bed linen. When he was working, I did iron his clothes, but he's mega fussy about collars, I do something bad to them, god knows what
Anyway can't complain he washes up and loads the dishwasher, for which I also have no aptitude for either apparently. Everything has to be rinsed first, which makes me question what the dishwasher is for [confused Oh well we all have our idiosyncrasies s'pose. At least I'm the undisputed cook in our household, he does bow to my superior skills in that respect
mainly cos he hasn't any!
What about Spanish men living in Madrid and French men living in Paris? They too are generally more stylish than the Brits. I lived in Madrid in the 1970s and had a peniless Spanish boyfriend. His dad was a tailor and made him beautifully fitted suits, some with waistcoats. He had no other option than to wear them all year round. I'm wondering now whether I should have hung on to him because of his sartorial elegance!
My DH always ironed his own clothes too 
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