Apologies for lack of detail, he has an over 20 year old Nokia, never had a smartphone, we have a trip to Australia to see our daughter and new granddaughter next year so we thought it would be really useful for him to have and he could get used to what they can do over here before we go, he says he hates mobile phones, but I am beginning to think we will have to get used to them as that is the way things are going. I think it needs to be easy to use and fairly simple but at the same time be able to do more than just make a call. There is so much choice it's difficult to know where to start. Thank you all for your comments so far, I'm fairly new to gransnet thanks for bearing with okme