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Switzerland by train

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Luckygirl Sun 31-Dec-17 18:14:51

My family are trying to organise for us all to spend 10 days in Switzerland, specifically as it is a favourite place of my OH who is unwell with PD. The idea is that they will be there to help us as travelling is a huge challenge to him. TBH I fear he will not be well enough at all next August but we are on top of contingencies for cancellation. It is a wonderfully kind thought from them - a once-in-a-what's-left-of-his-life opportunity.

There is no way he would be fit enough to fly, so the plan is that some of the family will fly, some drive down (the keen drivers!) and OH and I and one DD will go by train to Innsbruck. Has anyone ever done this? Do you know the best route? The idea is that OH will be able to sit back and enjoy the scenery and also have access to toilets. The journey to the Ashford terminal is likely to be a bit difficult for him (coming from S Wales border) as there will be changes necessary.

Does anyone have any advice about the most direct and speedy train route once we are over the channel? The rest of the family will pick us up in Innsbruck, having organised hire cars.

jura2 Mon 01-Jan-18 17:00:21

We live right near the old line that did Paris to Bern (near Interlaken) direct - ever since 1863- for Thomas Cook's clients - but sadly, although the line still exists, travellers have to change at a small station in Eastern France (Frasne) now (since 3 years ago).

jura2 Mon 01-Jan-18 17:03:39

The direct line now goes via Basel - no change to Interlaken from Paris:

www.interlaken.ch/en/tgv-line-paris-to-interlaken.html

IngeJones Mon 01-Jan-18 17:10:57

From personal experience and from these more up to date comments, I'd say the train version of the journey isn't gonna be pleasant for anyone frail or easily tired.

Luckygirl Mon 01-Jan-18 17:25:28

Thanks so much to all of you for your help.

jura2 - I will email you - thanks so much for all ideas.

jura2 Mon 01-Jan-18 18:10:45

There is a Parkinson's support society in Switzerland too, but their site is only in French, German and Italian - but happy to contact them with any of your questions.

www.parkinson.ch/index.php?id=1&no_cache=1&L=2

jura2 Mon 01-Jan-18 18:11:45

The TGV trains are really comfortable- but I'd say you two should travel first class.

jura2 Mon 01-Jan-18 22:31:44

Apparently, if you go via Brussels rather than Paris, there is no need to change stations, someone just told me.

jura2 Mon 01-Jan-18 22:32:51

And was told this site is very helpful:

www.seat61.com

Stansgran Tue 02-Jan-18 14:50:28

We use a rail card called Two Together. You need photos passport size. It saved quite a lot. Could you do rail from South Wales and overnight at St Pancras then probably get through with an early start to interlaken the following day?

Stansgran Tue 02-Jan-18 14:59:22

A friend swears by www.sendmybag and only carries a small carry on case and never goes anywhere except by train.

jura2 Tue 02-Jan-18 17:17:58

There is also a Facebook page called

TGV Lyria

jura2 Tue 02-Jan-18 21:02:42

How is your husband with reading now? I've recently read a book 'Slow train to Switzerland' by an English man called Diccon Bewes - he and his mum re-enact the first journey to Switzerland, via Chamonix- with clients (1863 from top of head)- from the notes he made and the diary of Miss Jemima, and her drawings/sketches.

They end up in the Interlaken region, or as we call it here- the Bernese Alps (Wengen, Grindelwald, Lauterbrunnen) and then on to Bern, Neuchâtel (my home town) and on to Paris on the newly opened Paris-Bern line - which passes right by our house still - sadly now with a change in the small town of Frasne since the last few years.

Luckygirl Tue 02-Jan-18 21:48:03

Thanks jura2 - he loves reading and I have ordered the kindle version. It looks fascinating and encompasses places we know. I am sure he will enjoy it.

jura2 Tue 02-Jan-18 21:54:03

Great, I learnt so much from it. As you know, I lived all my adult life in the UK- I know a lot more about UK history and geography, etc, than about Switzerland's, strangely enough.

And having lived for so long in Leicester, used to teach in Loughborough, and have a holiday flat in Market Harborough- Thomas Cook's story is very close to my heart.

felice Tue 02-Jan-18 23:09:01

Yes and you do not have to change stations in Brussels either, Gare du Midi is the international terminal for all the trains here.
I am disabled and find it very user friendly.

Luckygirl Fri 08-Jun-18 21:39:39

jura2 - I have just pm'd you with a query about health care. Hope you are following gransnet just now! x

jura2 Fri 17-Aug-18 09:30:23

Bon voyage Luckygirl and family - hope all goes really well and that you all have a wonderful time. Weather is great so my heart goes to you and your dear OH and all the family - have fun. Waving from the other side of the country- so wish we were nearer so we could meet and have coffee with you x

Luckygirl Fri 31-Aug-18 19:09:16

We did it!! - and it was wonderful!

OH struggled somewhat some of the time, but family all rallied round and helped him and gave me the opportunity to go out and about a bit. I loved it all. Lots of GC who all got on so well and loved being together.

The view from the house and the patio was sublime and, even though OH was not well enough to be out much, he had a lovely place to sit and relax.

All the medical contingency plans and insurances I had stayed firmly in the case and were not needed.

So - all round - a mad venture under the circumstances but a huge success.

Thanks to everyone who sent encouragement and ideas.

Auntieflo Fri 31-Aug-18 21:26:59

Luckygirl wonderful news. When you first posted, it seemed such a big undertaking, and very brave. You have a lovely family, sharing the care of your DH with you.
Thank you for coming back and telling us how much you enjoyed your trip. The memories will last for ever. Well done.

callgirl1 Fri 31-Aug-18 22:23:09

So glad all was well Luckygirl, and that you had a great time.

Marydoll Fri 31-Aug-18 22:40:36

Great news. I'm so glad it all worked out. The thread caught my eye tonight as I remember when you first posted.

grannyqueenie Sat 01-Sept-18 00:39:47

Marydoll you took the words out my mouth and since I’m also a Glasgow girl, they probably sounded exactly the same too!
Great news luckygirl

Willow500 Sat 01-Sept-18 06:11:54

What a wonderful family you have Luckygirl - so caring to have taken all your husband's needs into consideration and I'm so happy you managed the journey and had a wonderful time. Switzerland is stunning - my husband lived there for 18 months in the Emmental area and the views from his apartment were amazing. Prior to that he used to make the journey by car regularly crossing from Hull to Rotterdam then driving all the way which he loved. We'd like to go back one day so a train trip sounds a fab way of doing it!

silverlining48 Sat 01-Sept-18 06:59:18

Lucky girl, So pleased all went well, it did seem mad initially, yet it worked. Lovely to have the family together, it’s going to be one to remember.

Jura, we are just back last night from market harborough, our first trip to Leicestershire, a lovely market town. Trouble is I have put on 4 lbs in just two days, what do they put in those cakes?!

Marydoll Sat 01-Sept-18 07:43:03

grannyqueenie, ? You can take the girl out of Glasgow, but you will never take Glasgow out of the girl. grin