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Another cruise ship crash?

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TimothyMiranda Thu 27-Jun-19 16:51:40

Sad story... But it doesn't mean that people had to be at homa and avoid cruises. Such situation can happen even in the native country.

jura2 Sun 09-Jun-19 12:17:53

Recent information coming up about the massive pollution produced by thos massive ships, and the amount of rubbish thrown into the Oceans- has put me off totally.

jura2 Wed 05-Jun-19 16:14:40

Asking for a recommendation does not mean having a guarantee of enjoyment, surely. But thanks.

The more I think about it, the more I actually think it is not for me/us - as we like to turn left, turn right, go behind the scenes, and change plans if and when it feels right.

Jane10 Wed 05-Jun-19 14:33:08

jura2. There are quite a few companies offering smaller ships from about 900 passengers down to a handful. Depends on what you want to see, to pay, or where you want to go. I'm wary of making a particular recommendation in case you don't enjoy it!
We went on one very small cruise in France which only had 6 passengers. It was so bad that we could only laugh about it, grit our teeth and endure it! A Viking Ocean cruise was easily the best we've done - however, it was identical to the one that had to have passengers airlifted off.

EllanVannin Wed 05-Jun-19 14:06:03

Think of the pollution that these giants give off !

" Friends of the Earth " should be gathered around the ports protesting about them being built and polluting the seas.

jura2 Wed 05-Jun-19 13:33:35

Jane10, any recommendation for those smaller ships? Thanks.

Jane10 Tue 04-Jun-19 16:22:57

I agree. Poor Venice. It can't be wise to allow these massive ships to sail right down the canal to moor.

ayse Tue 04-Jun-19 15:34:00

I don’t think these huge cruise ships should be allowed to dock near these wonderful cities. It’s destruction waiting to happen, never mind the environmental impact.

Jane10 Tue 04-Jun-19 15:31:33

Not all cruise ships are massive jura. We've been very happy with one company which has smaller ships, is simply furnished, no casinos and pubs etc just good food and good company. Plus the smaller ships can get into smaller and more interesting places. Cruising doesn't have to be in those floating blocks of flats!!

jura2 Tue 04-Jun-19 14:41:51

Ah thanks for that Jane. So probably will not happen.

For me, the massive frustration would be, I think, is getting off ship to visit a town with 1000s of others and having to get back for a certain time- when I want to go and see those back streets, or hills just beyond.

Jane10 Tue 04-Jun-19 13:53:24

We didn't enjoy our Douro cruise as much as others we've done. Geography rather claustrophobic somehow. Buses every day to get anywhere. We like being able to get off the ship and just wander into little towns. Didn't seem possible on that one.
Liked the Grand France one best. It was great. We won't do any more river cruises now as there are just too many boats now. Double docking is grim. You open your curtains to see where you are and look straight into the cabin of the ship right next door! Frights on all sides!

jura2 Tue 04-Jun-19 13:42:42

Was truly shocked, as I thought that battle had been won, and Cruise ship had to dock on the outside of lagoon??? Is that not the case? Cruises would still come, surely- and people must realise that such a fragile and endangered City cannot sustain the massive water movement these ships cause.

Never fancied a cruise - and recent events confirm this. But for me, the even more important factor is the humongous pollution created by those massive boats.

A river cruise, now yes, on bucket list. Portugal and Duro Valley, out of season.

Jacinta55 Sun 02-Jun-19 20:29:51

Yes they will bring in lots of income, but perhaps they should have to moor outside the lagoon?

KatyK Sun 02-Jun-19 19:44:25

There was a campaign a while ago to try to get them banned from Venice but obviously they bring a lot of income to the city.

EllanVannin Sun 02-Jun-19 19:41:44

I too was in Venice when a cruise ship started its propellors as we were in a " water- taxi " leaving the port for the canals. The waves from the ships rudders etc could easily have turned over one of these water-taxi's and I remember saying to my friend back in the 90's that even then the cruise ships shouldn't be allowed in those waters.

KatyK Sun 02-Jun-19 19:29:29

We've been to Venice a few times. It's our favourite place but the sight of those massive cruise ships docking is truly scary. They are far to big. Venice has always seemed totally unsuitable for these massive vessels. (What do we know). We saw one trying to turn once and were convinced its was going to come crashing onto the streets.

MawBroonsback Sun 02-Jun-19 14:06:23

www.cnn.com/2019/06/02/europe/cruise-ship-crashes-tourist-boat-venice-intl/index.html

It is not many weeks since holidaymakers on a cruise ship off the Norwegian fjords has to be airlifted to safety.
Last week a river cruise ship mowed down a smaller vessel on the Danube in Budapest, sinking it, with considerable loss of life.
Now this, in Venice.
Are captains being negligent?
Are there too many cruise ships in overcrowded areas?
Many of us enjoy cruising ,but can we feel confident about the standards observed?
It is too important to take chances.