So that's it then, France is off! Quarantine from Sunday 4.00am

I have no idea sodapop though I am tempted to say pure spite. I thought it might be about barcode compatability, but apparently EU borders will accept paper versions of NHS codes.

anna7
We wanted to hire a treehouse. We were prepared to go anywhere in the uk. All booked !!!

Mamie

UK residents will now be able to come to France without quarantine. As double vaccinated UK nationals living in France, we will have to quarantine if we go to the UK, because the government will only recognise vaccines given by the NHS.
It is an utter disgrace. People are desperate to see their families.

I agree Mamie why the discrimination?

anna7

To all these people saying holiday in this country I would like to know where. Believe me I have looked. Everywhere is booked solid. Even September is more or less fully booked and September is no good to people with children anyway. It also overpriced and so crowded if you do manage to find something. We have friends is Cornwall who are not venturing out until the holiday crowds have gone. Even beautiful Northumberland is fully booked.

Try the inland counties of England. I'm sure there are properties to rent. Everywhere has places of interest, museums, nice country walks along the canal and river banks. Maybe not what people are used to but a break is a break.

Merci mamie.

UK residents will now be able to come to France without quarantine. As double vaccinated UK nationals living in France, we will have to quarantine if we go to the UK, because the government will only recognise vaccines given by the NHS.
It is an utter disgrace. People are desperate to see their families.

Lin52

Not sure what France is up to, seeing as in May this year they banned ALL but essential travel from the UK, with 10 days quarantine to boot. Only lifted on July 1st. Macron is such a child.

I don’t understand when Monsieur Macron is trying his best to keep the death rate down, (lower per million than the uk) and kept all schools open since last September, you call him a child. Look what happened in January when he lifted the barrier with the UK, he just doesn’t want a repeat.
What I don’t understand is, UK people want to travel all over the place and won’t have to isolate when arriving home if it is an amber place they visited, whereas UK citizens living in an amber country wanting to visit family, I haven’t visited my NHS daughter since February last year, 18 months, will have to pay for expensive tests and maybe isolate.

What use are cumulative figures if you want to know how many people have COVID at the moment

Not a lot M0nica but my post to kali2 yesterday wasn't about how many people, across the EU have COVID at the moment* . I was quoting which country, *within the EU has the highest reported cases as at that date

I have actually clarified that 21.59 and 23.09 yesterday.

There is a meeting next Monday of the conseil scientifique to discuss the delta varient. Castex or Macron will speak at a press conference afterwards.

What use are cumulative figures if you want to know how many people have COVID at the moment?

A country could have had a million cases, but if only 5 a day are getting it at the moment the country is fairly safe. If it has only had thousands of cases to date, but all are in the last week, then I would probably avoid it.

France reported 31 cases per 100,000 people yesterday graphics.reuters.com/world-coronavirus-tracker-and-maps/countries-and-territories/france/. the UK figure is 212 www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51768274

Not sure what France is up to, seeing as in May this year they banned ALL but essential travel from the UK, with 10 days quarantine to boot. Only lifted on July 1st. Macron is such a child.

Yes MerylStreep.

casdon at no time did I even mention the UK in my post, so I'm not sure why you would have thought that I'd transposed the UK/France figures. And I'm equally bemused by the fact that you say it doesn’t tell you the current position for France when the data is updated daily and the above table clearly shows that those are the cumulative figures, across the EU, as at 08/07/2021.

Kali2 you asked for the source of my information and I've provided it?

Chewbacca
Are these the figures.
www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/cases-2019-ncov-eueea

I’m not saying the EU stats are incorrect Chewbacca, but a cumulative total case rate since the beginning of the pandemic doesn’t tell you the current position for France, which as you will see from the Worldometer table (using official figures reported daily by countries across the world), France reported far less new cases today than Spain. I know of course that UK is no longer in the EU, but I thought you had transposed the figures between France and UK, as their new case rate is about one eighth of ours at present. Hope that’s a clearer explanation.

Chewbacca, could you give the source of this (wrong I believe) information, please?

kali2 please see above ?

Possibly so casdon but I went directly to the EU Centre for Disease Prevention and Control because they've been releasing daily updates on every member state since the 11th March and so I imagine that their statistics are fairly plausible. I imagine the the UK isn't included in those stats because, as you may have heard, the UK left the EU last year; hence I quoted in my post @ 20.59 France currently has the highest number of confirmed COVID cases in the EU, as at today's date

The case numbers are the cumulative cases on this list, here’s the Worldometer link for the current position.
www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

France has 5,794,665 cases. 111,288 deaths as at 8th July 2021
Spain has 3,897,996 cases. 80969 deaths as at 7th July 2021

Source: European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control

Member States, data on the daily number of new reported COVID-19 cases and deaths by EU/EEA country

COUNTRY CASES DEATHS DATE
Austria 646864 10507 08/07/2021
Belgium 10910012519607/07/2021
Bulgaria 422298 18129 08/07/2021
Croatia 360483 8224 08/07/2021
Cyprus 80588 380 08/07/2021
Czechia 16686193033108/07/2021
Denmark 296885253808/07/2021
Estonia 131357 1270 08/07/2021
Finland 97049 976 08/07/2021
France 5794665 111288 08/07/2021
Germany37335199114108/07/2021
Greece 4309601276308/07/2021
Hungary8083933000408/07/2021
Iceland 6664 30 06/07/2021
Ireland 275571 5006 08/07/2021
Italy4265714 127718 08/07/2021
Latvia137747 2534 08/07/2021
Liechtenstein 305259 08/07/2021
Lithuania279024439608/07/2021
Luxembourg 71748819 08/07/2021
Malta 30700 420 08/07/2021
Netherlands16942941773808/07/2021
Norway 132361796 08/07/2021
Poland2880503 7511408/07/2021
Portugal 8960261712608/07/2021
Romania 10810903409808/07/2021
Slovakia 7786001251608/07/2021
Slovenia 257620475308/07/2021
Spain 38979968096907/07/2021
Sweden 10920831463906/07/2021

But France doesn’t have the highest numbers in the EU either, that dubious honour falls to Spain at the moment, they have 17k+ infections, whereas France have 4K+ according to Worldometer.

Chewbacca I think you mean the UK has?

No I don't Casdon; I said, and meant, the EU. Great Britain isn't included in the weekly EU stats.

Ellianne

The French do have strange manners sometimes, but they really need British tourists too.

The UK needs EU tourists too, but have very strict quarantine and testing in place. Makes absolutely no sense now to stop this- BOTH ways, to stop the disastrous spread and fast rise.

If we are not prepared to PCR test before and again after, and quarantine- to stop the spread of Covid, both ways - then we don't deserve to travel.

merlotgran

It hasn't gone away. It's still out there.

Don't book a holiday.

Simples!

Exactly

I think PCR test before travelling, and quarantine and further PCR tests should continue to be compulsory BOTH WAYS.