Happy Valley Series 2

I too couldn't hear much of it - we will put the subtitles on next time I think!

Glad we're not the only ones who couldn't hear most of the dialogue, as they mumbled and spoke too quickly, (especially Sarah Lancashire). It wasn't the accent either as we're both from Yorkshire!

I really enjoyed that, caught up this afternoon.

I thought it crossed over from the series 1 perfectly and I was surprised how many characters were kept in from series 1. Good writing, good acting as previous series but yes mumbling was annoying.

Can't wait for second episode, good stuff.

Oooh, Mr Molesey!

Will he try a cover up ????

Why is it called "Happy Valley"? Is it a joke?

I do think the Mr Molesley (don't even know what his name is in this) sub-plot is very unrealistic, silly and unnecessary.

There's enough going on to keep our interest as it is.

I agree with you Ana - but that's what TV drama is all about isn't it? It would have been "nice" if he had just held back from throttling her and frightened her enough for her to drop her silly ideas and all back off and get on with their lives, but that doesn't make a good drama.

Personally, I think that the more far fetched it is the more popular it becomes in the ratings even if they just reflect the likes of us saying "ooh that's not very reaiistic" at the end of the day ratings are what it's all about [sigh]

Jingl, I read somewhere that Happy Valley is the local nickname for the area where they film the programme, but why, I don`t know. I found the dialogue a bit easier to follow tonight, but still had to turn the volume right up.

Jing - it's filmed around the valley surrounding Hebden Bridge. Hebden is a thriving community though the surrounding area suffers from high unemployment, poverty etc with the inevitable drug issues that go with that. I read that Sally Wainwright named it Happy Valley as it's known ironically by that name (by the police no doubt)
The murder scene was realistic wasn't it!
Great episode last night

I found that Sarah Lancashire did most of the mumbling last night. I had to have it on with sub titles and I also turned up the sound but I did enjoy it.

Last night's episode was terrific - especially the scene where Caroline faced Royce down in the crem. "Now you know what it feels like", in a look. And his rage! I'm a bit puzzled myself about the Mr Molesley sub-plot but hey ho. For the first time last night we had to have the subtitles on as neither of us could hear what was going on - unusual for me.

Why can't 'they' get the sound levels consistent? The opening music is loud but I'm finding a surprising amount of conversation unintelligible. Catherine's words to the 15 year old drug seller as she marched him out of the playground were inaudible. (Shouldn't he have had a teacher or parent with him?)I don't remember Being unable to hear the first series. Fiddling with the volume control all the time is annoying.
Otherwise I'm nervously fascinated although 'Molesley' is somewhat unbelievable. He veers between stereotypical irritable dad and man capable of anything. He just didn't seem desperate enough for what happened with his neurotic ex-mistress. I felt sorry for his long suffering wife, 'Hayley' and family but if he gets his just deserts they'll be better off without him.
Tommy Lee's creepy girlfriend seems to have crept from Scotland but why go to work in Hebden when her beloved is apparently incarcerated in London? Setting up the TA job would have taken a few weeks at least, it couldn't have happened between his mother's death and funeral.
OK - I know the answer: It's NOT real life!!

I think the idea is for the creepy girlfriend to get close to Catherine and more specifically her grandson. She's already questioning him under cover of listening to him read.

No doubt the revenge Tommy Lee is plotting will soon become clear...

Elrel, Tommy Lee's girlfriend is a TA in the same class that Tommy Lee's son, (Catherine's grandson) is in. Creepy! As Tommy Lee hates Catherine will the girlfriend harm/abduct the boy to get at her or is she there just to keep a watch on the family?
I agree about the bad sound levels this series. It is the first time I have found Sarah Lancashire hard to listen to so am thinking it is sound quality rather than her diction.

Alima Sarah Lancashire also speaks very quickly in this series some of the time. It is a combination of diction and sound quality I think.

I like the fact that they have brought in more people but the sound quality is rubbish I can usually hear the tv without my hearing aid as I am deaf on one side but I had to put it on to hear it

Could Molesley's dead girlfriend be the same bunny boiler who broke up the marriage of Catherine's sister's new fella?
It would link it into the storyline.

I enjoyed the last series. I think I may give this one a miss....I am not enjoying it at all.

I only got as far as the poor sheep in the first 5 minutes and haven't watched it since.

Alima - creepy Ms Welland has, allegedly, only just come to Ryan's school from Linlithgow. I'm wondering how she got her job apparently so soon after visiting him in Gravesend. Any girlfriend he had before being incarcerated would have been known to the police. She can't have been in Hebden before his mum was killed or, again, the police and neighbours would have been aware of her. I'm assuming there that if she'd moved to Hebden months ago she would have got in touch with his mum.

I'm sure they'll cook up some evil scheme to hurt the Cawood family. Run, Ryan, run!!

Again, I must grasp that it is fiction!!

What I meant earlier, on 17th, was that she must have planned to go to Hebden before Tommy Lee's mother was killed when he didn't have such a huge motivation to get Catherine. He's the only person (apart from his girlfriend?) to believe Catherine killed his mother.

He's been in prison for a while, she's had plenty of time to communicate with him and hatch a revenge plan. Killers get all sorts of mail from deluded fans only too keen to believe he's the real victim...

I don't think it started as anything to do with his mother's death - Catherine was the one who put him behind bars.

I thought someone said she was a prison visitor, but she can't be, they would be vetted and would probably live locally.

It would link it into the storyline.
Lona I think in fiction everything links in to the storyline eventually, even the dead sheep
Unlike RL, nothing happens randomly!

whigtewave it does get better after the sheep incident (unless it is not your kind of thing)