Happy Valley Series 2

What motive would Ann's dad have? My money's been on Nevison, too, but I don't really know why
gettingonabit it isn't just me then!!
Referring to the farmer: No, I don't think the son said he actually killed them I think he said 'what I did to those women'. Perhaps someone else will remember more.

Perhaps Nevison was using prostitutes when his sainted wife was ill.
He was under extreme stress with his wife so ill and his daughter kidnapped
He despised himself for going to prostitutes and felt guilty
He used them again after his wife died, was filled with hatred for what he was doing and killed them because they were not his beloved wife and were still alive when she had died.
He would have had access to the van (wasn't it his employee Sean who got arrested?)

George Costigan has played a baddie before, hasn't he? Rather scary looking!! (is that a good enough reason?)

Well, I don't know about anyone else, but the sound quality was so bad in the scenes between the Farmers that I didn't exactly hear what was said. So, what WAS said, exactly? Did the son admit to the killing of the prostitutes?

I think the house will go up in flames but who will be killed? The obvious person is the boyfriend because he's expendable, but they could spring a surprise and kill off one of the main characters. Any way you look at it that family has had more than its share of tragedy and trauma. It might be the sister.

Yes. I think the glasses woman's plan for the family (except Ryan) might be pretty big. Think pubs going up in flames and smoke in the soaps!

Can you tell I'm getting excited?

Caatherine's sister's already identified TA as being the person who bought the Scalextric for Ryan so she's already on the warpath!

That poor little boy, caught in the middle of such a family mess...

I think it's the farmer boy wot dunnit because that will take care of the prostitute murders then something will link Moseley to whatever his bit on the side was called. There's only one episode left and there has to be time to devote most of it to whatever the loony TA has got planned.

If Catherine goes to the school she will recognise her straight away from the funeral and then she'll snap her in half

There's also the boy's letter to his dad to have some impact as well.

As you see, I can't remember any of their names.

I did half expect to hear another gunshot after the first one, gettingonabit, but I don't think Mother would have shot herself, she's been portrayed as a strong character and wouldn't do that to her son.

Mm...interesting. My money's been on Nevison, too, but I don't really know why. Maybe he's just too goody-goody. I'm also uncomfortable with his relationship with Catherine-he's been involved in a kidnap after all and I reckon Catherine should keep her distance. And, as Sean(?) has been cleared of the murders and there's evidence of one of the girls in the white van, perhaps Nevison had access to it as his previous employer? Or perhaps John fitted Sean up with evidence whilst the van was in custody.

Also, I'm not sure that Farmer Woman has shot Farmer Son. We only heard a shot. She may have shot herself.

I think there's more to come from John. We know he's capable of murder, so why isn't he the culprit? We know that it's someone whose dna is not yet matched to the perpetrator. In fact, the Inspector stated that there was very little dna evidence left at the scene. John would know how to minimise evidence, being a detective.

I'm wondering about the trafficked girls and what they have to do with the storyline. I think it's partly to ensure that Catherine is still sleeping in the conservatory so, if Creepy Girlfriend comes by with her petrol bomb, she may be on hand quickly? I dunno.

I don't see the point of Anne. Unless of course, she's the killer!

Oh I think son did the prostitutes but he will have an alibi for the other one- remember he was injured/in custody -something. I love this programme except for the fact that I don't know where the teaching assistant gets all her money from. They are really poorly paid but she manages to use trains to London and to buy expensive Scaletrix. Mmm unlikely! Still it is entertaining!

What motive would any of them have?

Elrel I agree, how did he manage to look so handsome in War And Peace?
I think it was the hair and the very 'still' expression.

What motive would Ann's dad have?

We are supposed to suspect Neill, but that's too obvious.

Ann's dad??? Blimey! My money's been on Neill from the start. But then DH says not, and he's usually a better guesser than I am ! Have to say I'm loving this series - next week should be a corker!

I must agree if I haven't caught up with a programme I don't read the thread......common sense.

Well, if it wasn't either of them that means there'd have to be a completely new and unexpected suspect revealed next week which seems a bit unlikely

I suspect Ann's Dad

I don't think white van man did anything except get blind drunk, although he may have been the one to bash the last prostitute, the young one?
Getting a bit lost now.

No, I don't think the farmer was the culprit. Too late now though.

I'm loving this , except the phsyco teaching assistant's speaking without moving her lips....has her jaw been wired

I was surprised Molesworth was so upbeat and cocky just because Sean had been charged with all the murders. I'm pretty sure it would have come out at the trial that he couldn't have been responsible for Vicky Fleming's death.

Still, he deflated pretty quickly when Catherine told him the latest news.

I don't think the mother jumped the gun (!), I think she already had her suspicions.

Come-uppence

SPOILER ALERT

Nah. He did the nasty ones.

Which just leaves the policeman from Downton (can't remember the name) to get his come-up penance for his.

And what murder did the poor little white van man actually do? (we know he didn't do the prossie ones)

I bet the glasses woman burns the house down with her petrol bombs with the little lad still in it. But he will, of course, be rescued.

Oh, and Robert Emms was in Capital and played Pythagorus in Atlantis (as well as War Horse etc etc).

SPOILER ALERT!

Coolgran
I think the mother only had the word of the son for what he 'did', yes I know there is all sorts of circumstancial evidence i.e. the bump on the car...
Methinks perhaps mamma might have been a bit ahead of herself with the rifle.
Yes, me too. I did think that it was a bit too convenient; he is not there to defend himself and explain his actions, he may have thought that 'visiting' these ladies may have been a dreadful thing to do, hence his confession.

There is bound to be another twist or two before the end

ALERT - COULD BE A SPOILER IF YOU ARE NOT UP TO DATE WITH WATCHING THE EPISODES.

I've had a thought..... (as my dh would say - 'did it hurt', he thinks he's funny

I'm referring to the closing scenes of last night's episode.
I think the mother only had the word of the son for what he 'did', yes I know there is all sorts of circumstancial evidence i.e. the bump on the car...
But the son is clearly very disturbed, voices, previous psychotic episodes.

And what purpose have these characters served in the storyline so far.... it would be the police tracng the car paint, finding the son did the murders and he's already dead. ?? To me this doesn't seem a good enough ending.

Methinks perhaps mamma might have been a bit ahead of herself with the rifle.