Neither have I Iam64!
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I mentioned this programme on another thread which I don't want to hi-jack so have started this one.
It's a chilling and thought provoking three part documentary. Assad is a monster but it's as much about his English born wife, Asma. I began by admiring her attempts at reform while coping with his awful family but by the end was wondering whether her compliance was for her own and children's safety or a hardened attitude to the terrible acts being committed against the Syrian population.
It finished last night but is available on iPlayer (BBC2) if anyone wants to catch up with it.
Neither have I Iam64!
I shall watch this on iPlayer, when our lounge is usable.
In 30 years of regular contact with eye specialists, I've only met one who had poor social skills. He was the first specialist I saw and it was at a crisis time for my eyes. He was one of the old school - told me I'd be disabled and partially sighted within 10 years, turned on his heel and walked out. I drove home weeping but since then, every specialist I've seen has been as highly skilled as he is, but also had great person skills. So far as I know, none have morphed into psychopathic mass murderers.
Why?!
Just as well he wasn't a gynaecologist.
I would think being the son of a murdering megalomaniac is more damaging to your social skills than using a slit lamp. He may have not wanted to step into his brother's shoes but they were all brought up to know the score.
Nature and nurture.
We watched most of it. Unfortunately having trouble getting BBC on i player, so gave up half way through episode 3!!! It is quite fascinating watching the descent of Assad and Syria into a hell-hole. Those poor people.
In my experience, eye doctors have generally poor social skills - obviously not all of them, but the vast majority. They talk to patients over/through an eye examining machine (no idea what it is really called), and so do not have to make eye contact.
Very true, Iam and the wife who tries to stay outside of it all.
Her reasons for staying with him are understandable (third episode so I won't spoil it) but I would love to know how she really feels.
Ive only watched episode one so far but I’ll watch it all, it’s gripping. It is like the Godfather, with the awful father, the younger son who was building a professional career that contributed positively to society, only to find himself head of the dynasty.
That's true petra, but none of us can help the way we're born, or our appearance. In the earlier part of the programme I thought he looked deeply troubled, wrong person wrong place, but how could he help that?!
Of course, I'd forgotten about the Naval Base!! That answers my question!
I have only watched the first two so far, and got the impression that Assad would have preferred to remain an eye doctor. I think he had to bow to the family and the army because if he didn’t he would have been overthrown by either or both, and the country would have been in worse hands. Perhaps he thought that as time went on he would be able to change things, but in reality he can’t without being overthrown.
Do you remember a series of programs years ago, called Syrian School? It followed some of the students. At least girls and boys appeared to get the chance of a good education, though that does not help them now.
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^ I wonder what Putin wants in return^
He's got what he wants. Russia only have i navel base in the Mediterranean ( that's in Syria)
But, that needed to be expanded to accommodate more warships (nuclear)
The deal has been signed.
If only Assad had had the balls to tell his mother "I'm not my father and will do it my way"
But hey, what do you expect from someone with a chin as weak as that. It's almost invisible.
I agree POGS I would have thought that it would have generated a lot of comment. Bit like the thread about the Rohingya people of Burma! that didn't generate much interest either.
Surprised this programme received so few comments. I genuinely thought it was a good documentary, insightful and relevant timewise .
Yes it really is Shakespearean.
I found this to be an extremely sad saga of a young man catapulted into a position that he didn't want and had desperately hoped he would never be pushed into. A saga of a young couple who wanted to modernise Syria, but of course with that appalling family, the armed forces and the legacy of the father, (did you notice fathers portrait in the background of some of the posters?) they simply didn't stand a chance. I thought the look on Bashars face early on clearly indicated that he was not a happy man in the situation he was now having to be in. Suddenly it all changed, he HAD to become like his father come hell or high water and all that that entailed! and he did! Dreadful just dreadful! The look of relief when greeting President Putin - a saviour indeed! I wonder what Putin wants in return?!! A tragedy of Shakespearean proportions, both for Syria and for Bashar the gentle softly spoken eye surgeon, turned monster.
What an insight into the mind of a dictator !
I was fascinated by this 3 parter and sadly not shocked by anything we were shown.
Evil b----s aren't they and sadly they are just one family of dictators there are many more of them out there as we are all too familiar with.
Well worth a watch.
It did imply that The Family had a considerable influence on how Assad had to think and was expected to act. It seems to have lead to him becoming a split personality and a sad man being pulled in two (or more) directions. I wonder which one is the real Assad. One thing I couldn’t understand was that Asma dressed in revealing western clothes and made no attempt to cover up at all. Double standards all the way.
A very good series. I may try to watch it again.
Maybe they genuinely think they are doing the right thing? They seem surrounded by yes men and a cheering parliament. Very disturbing. Poor Syrians with a leading family like that. I suspect that the leaders of the other Arab countries are pretty much the same sort of set up.
Very interesting programme. Absolutely awful for all these innocent people in their own country. How can someone who studied medicine, helped give people back their eyesight come to be such a monster. It certainly allowed me to understand better of what went on. Unsure of how his wife fits into all of this too. She also seemed extremely kind and portrayed herself of wanting the very best for her country and it’s people. Such a tragedy. Well done programme makers.
Syria, a country ruled by a Mafia type family.
I’ve watched 2 episodes so far and found it interesting, disturbing and chilling all at the same time, so much background history that I never knew before. Like you folly22 I found the transition from doctor to despot hard to grasp.
A very interesting and informative programme. I learnt a lot. A must watch.
We have watched all three episodes and found it very interesting, and it has helped me understand a bit more about how Syria has become the way it is today. We were wondering what he has had to concede to Russia for its involvement in the war .
One of Assad's medical colleagues who trained with him was shown saying how bizarre it was that Assad was bombing hospitals and doctors and he (the colleague) was trying to put people back together. He couldn't understand him and I don't suppose anyone else can!
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