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Three Identical Strangers

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trisher Sat 02-Mar-19 11:01:42

Did anyone else watch this documentary about the triplets seperated and adopted at birth who found each other when they were 19? An amazing story, but also a dire warning that there are still people around who will conduct social experiments on human beings. That the study only came to an end in 1980 and the research is locked away was bad enough,but that there may still be twins who don't know about what was done to them is absolutely shocking.

BlueBelle Sat 02-Mar-19 11:14:58

Trisher I watched and thoroughly enjoyed the documentary which was so sad and a complete abomination against children to open up these sort of studies The only professional left said he thought there was at least four of five twins that would never know they had a sibling

Did you think how they were so much alike as young people but had grown quite unalike as older adults

aggie Sat 02-Mar-19 11:49:40

I seem to remember that they said that they so concentrated on being alike , that they forgot to look at their differences , they did grow unalike as they aged . It was fascinating but sad

trisher Sat 02-Mar-19 11:54:42

It was sad and yes they had changed as they grew older.
I did wonder about the professionals involved only one has spoken, but he was from 1969 and only worked for 10 months. I suspect there are others still working as psychologists who don't speak out, knowing that any evidence about them is safely locked away.

Grammaretto Sat 02-Mar-19 12:43:13

I watched it with a growing morbid fascination. I guess when this experiment began in the 1950s and 60s it was quite acceptable.
My friend adopted mixed race children in the 1970s into her existing family, when it was rather a popular idea, little imagining the difficulties ahead.
I remember when IQ tests were popular. I can't imagine inflicting these on children now. Oh wait a minute.....they still test children don't they!!

KatyK Sat 02-Mar-19 12:48:30

It was amazing and very sad.

Parsley3 Sat 02-Mar-19 16:30:06

I watched this. What an appalling experiment that was. The professionals who had worked on it as young people did not seem to understand how terrible the impact was on the triplets and twins involved.

evianers Sat 02-Mar-19 19:34:07

What I found so appalling was that Dr. Peter Neubauer, himself Jewish and seemingly a refugee from the Holocaust, could quasi-emulate what had been done to Jewish children in camps in the 40s. Dreadful study, and obviously highly controversial otherwise he would have published his results. Bravo to the two remaining triplets that they have been able to find out at least something. I am Catholic by the way.

jacq10 Sat 02-Mar-19 19:51:28

I found this programme very upsetting. We fostered a boy of 11 from a family of three children who had had many different placements, usually in different foster homes and children's homes. There didn't appear to have been any policy of trying to keep the family together. Our boy stayed with us and is still within our family circle although married and has a family of his own. If we had more room and could have afforded it we would have given his siblings a home. I always tried to involve his family as much as I could and had good support from a Social Worker. We were never going to be his Mum & Dad but I strongly believe every child deserves a home and a chance at family life. I remember at 16 I thought we were losing him and the social worker saying that if that happened he would still be able to relate to his time with us and use the experience with his own family and know now that is definitely the case although he soon passed through that phase. He is a good husband and dad. Unfortunately his siblings didn't fare so well. It's a long story which I can't go into but seeing this programme I really felt for those children who were so wronged.

Jane43 Sat 02-Mar-19 20:41:30

When I first started watching this I thought it was going to be a ‘feel good’ story but it was anything but that. As the men said they were just treated like lab rats. It was such a sad story, especially for Harry.

FountainPen Sat 02-Mar-19 20:59:13

I saw this at the cinema last year with two friends and we all came out feeling numb. I too thought it was going to be a feelgood story save that only two of the three brothers were talking to camera which did not bode well.

I wish Yale would unseal the records and call the Jewish Board's bluff over any potential lawsuit. Their behaviour was unethical by any standards not just today's.

yaledailynews.com/blog/2018/10/01/records-from-controversial-twin-study-sealed-at-yale-until-2065/

FarNorth Wed 06-Mar-19 10:56:13

Over the years, I've occasionally seen mention of studies about twins separated at birth. I always assumed these studies were of twins who had been unavoidably separated, but clearly not always. Maybe this was not the only study of its kind.

Also, up until 1970, the UK was sending children to Australia, without consent from their relatives.

Stranger times than we realised.

Bambam Wed 06-Mar-19 11:18:18

I watched this programme and it really upset me, I have identical twin girl Grandchildren, now 20 and together at University and the thought that they could have been separated at birth just doesn't bear thinking about.

trisher Wed 06-Mar-19 11:27:52

It does seem horrific that this study went on until 1980 when the triplets met up, which seemed to be the end for it. I wonder that no-one ever considered that some of the children involved might eventually meet their siblings.

maryeliza54 Thu 25-Apr-19 22:06:11

I’ve just caught up with this programme. I’m reeling at the evil demonstrated here - and by Jewish people so shortly after the Holocaust and the experiments done on twins in the camps. And as was revealed with the triplets, the whole family were part of the experiment. Truly truly wicked. They absolutely knew what they were doing as the Nuremberg Code had been developed after the Nuremberg Trials and included issues such as voluntary consent and the right to leave the experiment at any time. What was really going on? Money? Professional pride and hubris? Certainly a massive cover up by wealthy well connected people. One of the reins used the word ‘Nazi’. He was right. They were. What irony

maryeliza54 Thu 25-Apr-19 22:07:17

Reins = triplets ( too cross to preview)