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Netflix The Crown series 4 starts tonight...who will be watching it?

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mamaa Sun 15-Nov-20 16:49:30

I really enjoyed series 1-3 partly due to the historical aspect I think. From the trailers I've seen, series 4 is set in the 80's- so the Thatcher Years, Charles and Diana etc.

This is recent memory and I wonder how it'll be received by those whom it portrays, and their relatives, who are still with us...maybe they'll rise above it with no comment.

However some 'friends' of the Royals are already in the press criticising the portrayal of C and D, and Carol Thatcher has dismissed as nonsense the way her mother has been shown as favouring her brother (but even when he got lost in the Sahara I seem to remember Mrs T defending him so maybe the producers aren't too far away from the reality!).

Lisagran Sun 29-Nov-20 14:05:09

Ah, ok, thanks, Anniebach

Anniebach Sun 29-Nov-20 14:03:01

On their royal social media accounts Lisagran

Lisagran Sun 29-Nov-20 13:58:49

Where are they being trolled, Anniebach?

Anniebach Sun 29-Nov-20 13:44:08

Charles and Camilla are being trolled , vicious

mamaa Sun 29-Nov-20 13:01:03

Yes Anniebach should have made that clear- alleged events.

Anniebach Sun 29-Nov-20 11:37:33

Alleged events surely

mamaa Sun 29-Nov-20 11:07:27

Having watched all of series 4 I too have not enjoyed it as much as 1-3. I think this is because the series is portraying, to those of us in my age bracket,( early 60's) events still clear in our minds.
We remember the very thin Diana on the steps of St Paul's, the insistence of taking Wills to Oz, the rumours, the tapes, etc etc
We weren't privy of course to things which happened behind closed doors and many of the events of series 4 would appear to be taken from details revealed in Morton's book, and the interviews of both Charles and Diana. These in turn led of course to be a big part of the Queen's Annus Horribilis in 1992...
Interesting article in the Mailonline this morning re The Crown needing to be seen as fiction not fact...such a reaction never seen re previous series, but I suppose events shown could be seen as quite detrimental to the present popularity of Charles and Camilla which has increased seemingly as the years have gone by.
Link below
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8996921/Culture-Secretary-Oliver-Dowden-demands-Netflix-make-clear-Crown-fiction.html

Anniebach Sun 29-Nov-20 10:29:30

Princess Anne had a relationship with Andrew Parker Bowles
when both single. He is godfather to Zara so they obviously
kept a friendship, they were all part of ‘a country set’ .

merlotgran Sun 29-Nov-20 10:25:39

If there is any truth in how the royal family and Camillas involvement is portrayed in this episode they should be ashamed.

You have to take it all with a huge pinch of salt, Pennylane. This series, above all the others, shouts fiction rather than fact. It's a shame because those who believe every word will have a skewed view of the monarchy when the Queen and Prince Phillip deserve better.

pollyperkins Sun 29-Nov-20 10:13:57

That’s the big I read about. The producer/writer said he’d made it all up g do if dramatic effect. No evidence that Charles & camilla ‘got together’ in the first 5 years of his marriage., (although they phoned each other) but only after the marriage had broken down & she was seeing others too.

Pennylane4711 Sun 29-Nov-20 08:54:39

I started to watch it and got as far as Diana being invited to Balmoral. I have to admit I have found this episode a bit upsetting and won’t be watching any further. If there is any truth in how the royal family and Camillas involvement is portrayed in this episode they should be ashamed.

harrigran Sun 29-Nov-20 08:38:47

I have watched all of series four and this is the only series where I felt it was total fiction.
I can not imagine the conversations taking place especially where Charles said unkind words, he is far too well bred to have voiced the words they said he did.

Grannynannywanny Sat 28-Nov-20 17:48:36

I loved series 1-3 and was looking forward to the new series. But I just didn’t enjoy it nearly as much. I did stick with it to the end but I came close to giving up a couple of times.

Iam64 Sat 28-Nov-20 17:25:16

, Gillian Anderson is a good actor, she can do an English accent brilliantly. She is miscast as Thatcher, she’s too short, too thin and somehow just can’t be Thatcher x

Sophiasnana Sat 28-Nov-20 15:02:17

Have watched the first episode of the new series. Dont know why, but Im finding the actresses portrayal of Margaret Thatcher really irritating. Maybe its because shes an American actress struggling with a very british accent?

Babs758 Wed 25-Nov-20 10:39:15

Re Lady Glenconner. I believe she is writing a "fictional" book based on aristocrat's lives in the Caribbean and will be some sort of thriller. I am keeping an eye out for its release as would be great Christmas reading. I would love to be rich enough to stay in the villa (Fireflies?) in Mustique!

hollysteers Mon 23-Nov-20 12:20:45

Jane10 Good point but we paid a hefty price to look round it.
Lots of shabby not so chic in my own house and decorating shelved. However, I have not opened my doors to the paying public (yet) and the RF are not short of a penny. They operate a thriving business apart from our compulsory donations.

Jane10 Mon 23-Nov-20 11:48:05

I'm not surprised that Clarence House was maybe a bit shabby. It was a home not a hotel needing constant upgrading. It was bound to have had slightly faded curtains or soft furnishings as time had gone on just as our homes can wear a bit. I can't face the palaver of repainting or replacing curtains etc. I bet the Queen mother had a favourite seat etc.

hollysteers Mon 23-Nov-20 11:20:33

OK fusspot Daddima : Queen of the United Kingdom and 15 other Commonwealth countries. Wiki. ?

Anniebach Mon 23-Nov-20 10:32:14

Who are the other three Queens in the United Kingdom?

Daddima Mon 23-Nov-20 10:22:22

hollysteers

As PP was pretty broke and practically homeless, staying with various relatives around Europe, he certainly landed on his feet marrying the future Queen of England.

‘Queen of England’, Hollysteers?

rosecarmel Mon 23-Nov-20 03:02:11

She appeared warm and joyful when with them though -- opposed to how the queen appeared with her own-

hollysteers Mon 23-Nov-20 01:49:38

Back to the cheeky mouse! (no bow).
After looking around Clarence House, I’m not too surprised, it was shabby in parts, rather surprising for a prominent member of the RF.
The death of Diana might have been mitigated somewhat by the fact that the boys would have spent a lot of time with nannies, then long periods away at Eton, unlike an average family, in close contact every day and although Diana is called a devoted mother, she seems to have spent a lot of time away from her children. If she had been at Balmoral with them, she might not have died. Even if I heartily disliked the annual holidays at Sandringham and Balmoral, wild horses would not have kept me away from my children at such times and there is no shortage of accommodation on those vast estates if one wanted to keep some distance, as Sarah Ferguson does.

Jaberwok Sun 22-Nov-20 19:15:36

Landing on his feet? Maybe, maybe not. He would certainly have had a very successful naval career which was cut short, he might have married on his own terms and been able to live his life as he really wished, not in the shadow of his wife, a difficult and frustrating position to be in, and his children would have had his surname without a major upset! Not sure that it was that advantageous.

rosecarmel Sun 22-Nov-20 19:08:31

I watched all of The Crown followed by a docu-series about the Windsors- Both seem to have painted them pretty much the same- I enjoyed watching both-