The Missing Children 10.20pm ITV Docu;

sorry but i can't take any more misery memoirs.
i know it's scandalous, but i can't change it by watching.

why click on something that doesn't appeal?

Thanks for this - I’ll definitely watch.

lemsip

why click on something that doesn't appeal?

i did not expect the subject to be this, from the thread title.
and i think we can all comment on a forum, unless being offensive, that's what a forum is for, comments.

Thanks Lemsip will watch that on catchup, I tend to miss programs after 10 pm as Im in bed by then.

I watched it. It beggars belief that so called Christians who had devoted their lives to God, could carry out such evil deeds. Just how they could justify what they did is beyond me; they falsified death records; they stole babies and sold them to childless American couples, withheld records, starved babies, buried children in sewage tanks; the list is shocking. Police should have be involved years ago, they were criminals and should have been convicted and all records seized and made available immediately (any records recently found have been sealed for 30 years, I presume so that they will only become public when the generation they refer to will have all died - disgusting).

100% agree with you Curleywhirly!!! absolutely horrific!!! genocide!!!!

And all swept under the carpet because it involved the church. Nobody should be above the law. Apologies have recently been offered - hollow words if they coluded in surpressing documents to help those poor families get details of what happened to their siblings and poor mothers, at the hands of those callous nuns. And all because children were conceived and born out of wedlock - a heinous crime. They were treated like vermin, because that is how they were viewed.

Curlywhirly

I watched it. It beggars belief that so called Christians who had devoted their lives to God, could carry out such evil deeds. Just how they could justify what they did is beyond me; they falsified death records; they stole babies and sold them to childless American couples, withheld records, starved babies, buried children in sewage tanks; the list is shocking. Police should have be involved years ago, they were criminals and should have been convicted and all records seized and made available immediately (any records recently found have been sealed for 30 years, I presume so that they will only become public when the generation they refer to will have all died - disgusting).

Not all people inside churches are Christians. Within our circle of Christian friends, they would be known as ‘ Churchians’. We’ve also encountered ministers/ vicars, who are not Christians. I think they think it’s easy money!

With these people....Jesus doesn’t figure at all.

Have to add...there are many people who don’t go to church, who are Christians....myself included. Churches in the main are hypocritical, judgemental places following their own rules.

Gosh DiscoDancer what a judgemental post! How can you judge who is and who is not a Christian? Only God can judge.My husband is ordained and worked as a vicar. Easy money???! It seems to me that you speak of something you know little about.

Christians mocking Christians who attend Church services, I am unable to attend Church now because of a health problem
but always attended from a very young age , I hope to attend services again and become a churchian, until then I am a Christian

Romans 2:1:
Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things.

In 1972 I was in an unmarried mothers home in Exeter which was run by the diocese And I can say although it wasn’t an easy experience (giving up my baby girl for adoption )it certainly was not unpleasant and Mrs Leaman the matron and the staff there were absolutely wonderful, there were about 10 of us girls if I remember rightly from all over Devon

I was raised a Catholic by an English mother and an Irish father, they were both cruel.

I went to school to be taught by nuns and Catholic lay staff they were also cruel, I was so petrified of one teacher I used to pray she would die, she went blind and I thought for many years it was my fault!

I was pregnant at 19, my parents were apoplectic with rage, my father actually enquired about sending me to a Magdalene laundry.

The Catholic Church ruled Ireland for so long, thankfully those days are over.

I think they are even debating wether or not to continue the Angelus bell on RTE

mumofmadboys

Gosh DiscoDancer what a judgemental post! How can you judge who is and who is not a Christian? Only God can judge.My husband is ordained and worked as a vicar. Easy money???! It seems to me that you speak of something you know little about.

I wasn’t judging, I know because they’ve said so. Sorry if it’s offended you. I also know many vicars who are Christians, most of them actually.

It was in reply to CurlyWhirly, who couldn’t understand why Christians would behave that way. I simply said why that might be....from my own experience.

If anyone’s being judgemental....it’s you.

I’m always a bit wary of Scout masters. Men with young boys.
I know I’m being judgemental.
The majority will be genuine.
It’s the bad apples that concern me.
Think of Jimmy Saville. Certain opportunities are ideal for paedophilic individuals.
Ditto charity workers abroad.
It can be a rotten world for children.

That is just ridiculous Urmston if you dont mind me saying! What about paediatricians or primary school teachers? Some males enjoy working with young people. Abusers are thankfully rare compared to the many, many good people who work with kids. I am not in any way saying abuse is not incredibly serious and damaging for the poor children involved

It was a gruelling and horrifying watch but I think it was a documentary that was so important to be made.

What was especially dreadful was the fact that the victims and their families had to fight to allow documentation relating to their personal information and stories to be released. But the rest of the information regarding this terrible scandal is being kept under seal for, I think they said, 40 years. And the area where human remains were found has still not been fully excavated so that the scale of this abomination is plain for all to see and there is an opportunity for victims to be formally identified.

Like Sago we were taught by Catholic nuns, Marist brother and Catholic teachers. They were mainly horrible and cruel, as were the priests. We were terrorised. I found out years later that the nuns were The Sisters of Charity. What a joke. With our monster of a father, we were scared at school and scared at home.

Shinamae

In 1972 I was in an unmarried mothers home in Exeter which was run by the diocese And I can say although it wasn’t an easy experience (giving up my baby girl for adoption )it certainly was not unpleasant and Mrs Leaman the matron and the staff there were absolutely wonderful, there were about 10 of us girls if I remember rightly from all over Devon

I'm sure some homes were not the hellholes we have heard about. There must have been some with caring staff who did their best. My father was a child migrant sent to Australia and his experience was thankfully not one of abuse and cruelty. But some of the children's homes were pure hell on earth. Again, it was the Catholic ones which were the worst. The Catholic Church has a lot to answer for when it comes to child abuse, both with the mother and baby homes and the children's homes. I don't know how the Pope can even show his face.

I agree momb my adult grandson works with the Scouts and has done an amazing amount for charity with them. Don't judge everyone by the bad apples Urmstongran

Although I missed this programme I have read a lot of articles about the way children were treated in the past and am so thankful. I have the cutting from our local newspaper where I was "advertised" as available for boarding out or adoption. If boarded out a small monetary sum would have been paid by the local authority for my keep. Some local crofters used to take boy children to help out with farm work and it is recorded that some were not treated well. No social workers, etc, back then. My adoptive Mum saw the advert and within 10 days I was placed in my new home - well actually she borrowed a pram from a neighbour and headed for the local "Poor House". This was immediately after the war and by the time my Dad came home I was settled in!! After they had both passed away I researched it and it all checked out. My birth mother had no means of support and was "destitute" How sad is that! Eight years later (no doubt after a hard life) she met and married and had four children but died when in her late 30 - so sad. I am in contact with my new family who knew nothing of this and we can hardly comprehend how awful her life must have been at that time.

I support a neighbour on a day to day basis who is in the early stages of Alzheimer’s. Some of the incidents concerning her memory are often bizarre and funny. But her recollection of her time in a home ( that’s a sick joke) with nuns and priests never ever varies.
I often wish that someone could erase those memories so that she could have some peace before she dies.