Why are we subjected to such rubbish

Escept an opportunity for exhibitionists to out-exhibition anyone else.

Why would you stand stark naked in a line of other people, have your nether regions exposed and discussed, then your mid section and so on? With the house clearance and cleaning programmes I can see that the benefits outweigh the costs but with Naked Attraction I can’t see any benefits for the participants at all.

I cannot watch any of these dreadful reality shows but I guess regarding the hoarding it must be very comforting to know there are other people out there.
I wonder how many people these shows have motivated to do something about their hoarding.

Harmony. I am not suggesting and did not suggest that all those who hoard have mental health problems, but some do and this is recognised www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0005796704000531 so I think that tv programmes should be very careful over who they select for these programmes, because in such cases, the mental health difficulties of these people can be exacerbated by featuring in a programme.

From personal experience I would say there is a real difference between people who hoard and people who do not throw things away, or have collections that sometimes get out of hand or like you, physically, cannot sort things out.

I will admit that I haven't watched these programmes in a decade or more. I watched the early ones, not to look down on anyone but to understand how and why people got into these situations, but after the first series when the programme makers moved to setting people up to make them look inadequate or stupid, I stopped watching and now avoid all such programmes.

I was unaware that 'syndrome' had a precise definition in psychology

Pigs more like.

Also, as my final point to everyone, don't assume everyone who hoards is mentally ill, we're not!

I keep thinking I may have hidden treasure under the stairs or in the attic, but probably not.

Flying ducks anyone?

Unfortunately depression can, if untreated, rob you of all motivation to do anything, even blindingly obviously needed cleaning and tidying.

@M0nica

4) Many of those with terrible homes are actually mentally ill. Either depressed or suffering from Hoarding syndrome, a recognised mental health problem that often arrises after personal trauma.

As someone with 'hoarding tendencies' I can assure you that there is no such medical term as 'Hoarding Syndrome'. Hoarding is a recognised condition but its definitely NOT a 'syndrome'. We're also not all 'mentally ill' and for your education, 'depression' is a mental health condition.

ANYONE can have 'hoarding tendencies', with or without mental health issues. I know a number of people whose 'collections' have got out of hand, they're not depressed or in any other way mentally ill, just overwhelmed with the amount of 'stuff' they've collected and aren't sure where to start when they realise they have too much and need to do something about it.

Some of us, me included, are physically disabled and find it difficult to do the actual sorting/removal of the now no longer needed 'stuff'.

SOME will have experienced some form of trauma in their lives which has caused them to retain 'stuff ' for any of a variety of reasons but for many it can be because these things might give them a feeling of safety or security.

A little like (and I say little because there are so very few similarities) being an addict of some (common) sort, one has to admit they have an issue (not necessarily a problem) and then there's the embarrassment of whether or not to ask for help. UNLIKE AA, NA, GA etc, finding help for a hoarding issue is like finding rocking horse poo, there is so little help out there, there's no consistency from one part of a city to the next, never mind different cities, counties, etc, it's no wonder that SOME people are so desperate for help that they'll see these types of TV programmes advertised and will feel that that is their only chance of help.

So, your point 3, where you said "They really do want a solution to a problem that is really overwhelming them so much they cannot cope with it and apply to these programmes as a last resort", is actually the most likely of anything anyone has suggested.

For those who look at the homes on those programmes down your noses, those are the LUCKY ones (yes, lucky), because getting onto these programmes is not only a last resort but for the person with the problem, it's like winning the lottery!

Also, as my final point to everyone, don't assume everyone who hoards is mentally ill, we're not!

Yeah - well said Sashabell I do agree with you - wouldn't any sane person be utterly ashamed at getting into such a state and want not put it on public show.
What is behind the thinking of the media that must think its ok to normalise this kind of living behaviour????

I'm not a hoarder. I just find it difficult to part with things, either they have sentimental value or they might come in useful one day or I might lose weight .......

It's just you may not realise it unless you looked in my cupboards, wardrobes and the attic.

No way would I allow it no matter how much they pay, and certainly not in the surgery. The hoarders programme highlights mental health issues. My DM had a cousin who was a nurse and her house was a tip. She always apologised for the state of the house. DM told her that it was no one’s business if she wanted to live like that, her reply was that she didn’t want to but didn’t know how to sort it out! She appeared to have a mental block at home but was an excellent nurse.

Escape to the chateau is the story of Dick and Angel Strawbridge, they do anything and everything to make a living, to enable them to live in the chateau. I enjoy watching their adventures, and wish them well and Good Luck.

As for rubbish TV....One persons rubbish is another persons treasure! Although Naked Attraction, makes me cringe, so I turn to another channel...lol

if you have a dvd player maybe you could buy it!

Anniel

My son watches the series about the British couple who own the Chateau in France. I had watched previous series and like both of them, especially I admire the woman’s artistic skills and her ability to see how her ideas would work out. Her husband has amazing practical skills and I really like them.

However, both of us think that no normal people could afford all they have done and I guess Channel 4 pay for the renovations, including the handy British tradesmen who seem to be around. Still, people enjoy the programme as it has survived many series and I guess we are rather envious of their skills and appealing personalities and wish we had similar attributes…..we still watch it and I guess a great many viewers enjoy it too.

He has been on TV for years Annie. He did a previous eco house series with his first family! and then was on scrap metal challenge something or other. He is a very clever bloke though

i like shows like that, the hoarders was means that people get help and a nice tidy house to start again. you don't have to watch these programmes you can turn the tv off and stop complaining as there is some people that do like them.

I doubt if the production company pays much of the renovation cost of the Chateau series. It will be paid for by the owner, sponsorship and the free work of people who will benefit from the publicity of being able to refer to their presence on it.

This couple and the chateau are a business and the whole concept will have been worked up and they will have worked up and sold their story as a programme idea to a production company. - and why not, of it makes good viewing. They will be dropped pdq when it ceases to pull in viewers - and they know that this will happen. I haven't seen the programme - we have our own renovation property in France - and that is sufficient for us.

I doubt if the production company pays much of the renovation cost of the Chateau series. It will be paid for by the owner, sponsorship and the free work of people who will benefit from the publicity of being able to refer to their presence on it.

This couple and the chateau are a business and the whole concept will have been worked up and they will have worked up and sold their story as a programme idea to a production company. - and why not, of it makes good viewing. They will be dropped pdq when it ceases to pull in viewers - and they know that this will happen. I haven't seen the programme - we have our own renovation property in France - and that is sufficient for us.

Anniel
Not all the chateau was done in one go. They concentrated on the parts where they could start their wedding venue business.
Have you seen the price of these weddings?
Don’t forget they were both very successful in their own right before they married.

Jazzhands absolutely right to give no names.
It's fine if people seek this out for themselves but they shouldn't be pursued.

They don’t worry me at all because I’ve never watched any of them. There’s plenty of other things to watch nowadays.

I was on charity shop duty when 2 young eager TV researchers came in and asked if we knew any hoarders who needed their home clearing up. We declined to give names, because it's never that simple - it exposes a lot more than I think the person is aware of - and to what end - entertainment. Although I do have a soft spot for most of the TV hoarders and their stories.

4allweknow

What on earth is the point of that cleaning element on that clear up cleaning programme. If someone says they are too busy to clean a cooker how does cleaning it for them enable them to clean it in the future, surely they will still be too busy. The storage I can understand, but really some folk can't seem to figure it out themselves. Only one episode seemed worthwhile; that involved a couple needing help to maneuvere his wheelchair in and out and round the garden.

Aren't there a whole host of things people can't figure out for themselves?
How to stand up to bullying husbands.
How to say "no" to 53 year old 'children'.
How to stop crying because their grandchildren are growing up.
That's just some examples from threads on here...

I didn't see it, but that's nice to know.

The Stacey Solomon programme was very moving last night. Stacey is always so caring. I think that sometimes people reach desperation point.