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Has the TV licence changed?

(15 Posts)
Jaylou Fri 05-Aug-22 13:43:56

My daughter has just moved into a new flat, she doesn't watch much TV and never BBC/iplayer. So she wasn't sure if she needed a licence.
I always check everything and like to be on the right side of the law, and was going to get her one anyway just to be safe.
Looking at the TV licence website it now says you need a licence to watch or record ANY channel. When did this change?
I thought the licence funded the BBC. By saying any channel is this just a sneaky way of forcing everyone to buy one as they will have no excuse if they say they never watch BBC.

ayse Fri 05-Aug-22 13:48:26

If you stream pay for sites like Netflix and Prime you don’t need a licence. My daughter never watches live tv, BBC etc. and had a visit from the TV licence authority. She still isn’t paying a TV licence.

I can watch anything on my iPad on my licence as long as it’s not plugged in.

It’s a crazy system!

welbeck Fri 05-Aug-22 13:58:35

it has not changed.
it was always the case that you had to have a TV licence, even if you never watched BBC.
it was for having/using a TV, not for watching BBC.
the situation now has extended to any watching of live TV as it is broadcast, on any equipment, or of watching any BBC even if after time of broadcast.
i may not have explained that clearly, sorry.
if she absolutely never watches any BBC, even after the time of broadcast, and she only watches other channels after the time of broadcast, then she will not need a TV licence.

Jaylou Fri 05-Aug-22 14:02:47

Their website says you need a licence to watch or stream live programmes on sites including Prime, youtube, sky etc

I haven't dug into their website just looked at their front page.
It is a very grey area, so will err on the side of caution.

I was just surprised that it now covers all channels.

Ilovecheese Fri 05-Aug-22 15:19:27

It always did cover all channels.

M0nica Fri 05-Aug-22 16:20:52

Essentially, if you own a tv, you need a licence.

The tv licensing authorities are not interested in what channels you do or do not watch.

Jaylou Fri 05-Aug-22 19:59:43

Thanks for your input everyone.
I would never consider not getting a licence, but so many people seem to get away with not buying one.

Keeleklogger Fri 05-Aug-22 20:52:06

I just ignore them.

As long as no live broadcasts are being viewed or recorded at your property they haven’t got a leg to stand on and you don’t owe them a penny.

Serendipity22 Fri 05-Aug-22 21:03:03

What gets me about the TV licence is how can they prove you ARE watching TV channels and not Netflix etc ?? Always baffled me, well not always but has baffled me for some time.

confused

M0nica Fri 05-Aug-22 21:28:26

Keeleklogger How can you prove it when the licensing people come to call?

Hellogirl1 Fri 05-Aug-22 21:50:52

When I worked for the GPO, many years ago, we were told that their detection vans could tell what channel someone was watching. I don`t know if that still applies.

M0nica Fri 05-Aug-22 21:58:45

But if someone has a tv and it is not actually in use when the detector van comes round, that will not help.

That is why they work on the basis that if you have a tv you need a licence. All retailers have to send details of all purchasers of tvs to the licensing authority. www.tvlicensing.co.uk/about/media-centre/news/as-online-tv-takes-off-NEWS8

welbeck Fri 05-Aug-22 22:23:08

but if you ever watch any bbc programmes, even if not live, you need a licence.
you do not need a licence for bbc radio, or any other radio.

DillytheGardener Fri 05-Aug-22 22:46:01

So if you bought a second hand tv you wouldn’t be on their radar? I watch BBC, but I’m curious for those who don’t but watch other channels. Gen Z especially do not watch live tv and BBC has little appeal for them.

M0nica Sat 06-Aug-22 09:20:00

I would assume not, I have often wondered that.

I do not know about Gen Z, but I have never watched tv, of any kind, very much, nor sport, nor gone to the cinema. When DH was travelling the tv wouldn''t be switched on at all in his absence. I would much rather read a book or listen to the radio. No value judgment, just prefer words to moving pictures.